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billding68 1016 posts |
Mar 06, 2015, 04:36
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The only word that comes to mind though the utter sadness is Assholes http://edition.cnn.com/2015/03/05/world/iraq-isis-destroys-ancient-city-nimrud/
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moss 2897 posts |
Mar 06, 2015, 06:52
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It is a terrible incident, the sheer stupidity of religious faith, it makes the Stonehenge affair look small in comparison. But go back to 2008 and the Bamiyan Buddhas in Afghanistan were destroyed in a similar fashion.
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tjj 3606 posts |
Edited Mar 06, 2015, 13:33
Mar 06, 2015, 08:25
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More ... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-31760656
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billding68 1016 posts |
Mar 06, 2015, 14:15
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To believe that doing something like this is Gods will is something hard to wrap my head around. So many priceless artifacts just wiped from the face of the earth....horrible !
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Howburn Digger 986 posts |
Mar 06, 2015, 20:53
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The nutters have smashed up what was left after Britain and the USA carpet bombed the place. How very dare they! Half a million dead Iraqui civilians. Enormous areas of the country covered in depleted Uranium and White Phosphorous. Whole regions have been left with countless plastic mines and other lovely concealed ordnance for which we claimed back costs and expenses for our "services" to Iraq. You're welcome! To take just one tiny isolated example... the US Military carpeted Fallujah with MK77's which are a delightfully potent mix of Napalm and White Phosphorous. The first battle of Fallujah was a overwhelming US Military strike on the small town in retaliation for the killing of four Blackwater mercenaries who had been killed and their bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates. You might have watched the Blackwater Guys "fun day out"footage on Liveleak, where they drive down the main street in Fallujah just shooting civilians and drivers while playing Elvis songs really loudly over their PA. The US referred to the subsequent military action as a "pacification" of Fallujah. Over 600 unarmed civilians were killed by the US military in this "pacification" process. The ISIL (now ISIS) nutters whom the UK and US used to try and destabilise Syria have been fed, watered, paid, clothed, armed and trained by us. They've witnessed how to do things. Abu Ghraib? That's nothin we're gonna burn a guy in a cage! The Cradle of Civilisation and those wonders of Archaeology? Those bits that the coalition deemed unfit to bomb, loot or plunder in the last two Iraq wars? There wasn't a whole lot left really... The UK and USA bombed that country back to the Stone Age and sent a clear message. I think some people were listening and heard it loud and clear. Let us not confuse Time Team watched over Roast Beef, gravy and potatoes on a Sunday Afternoon in rural Oxfordshire, with the daily horror of life and death in Iraq and Syria. Wholesale slaughter and carnage which the West unleashed, fed and created. Remember in Apocalypse Now, the story that Kurtz tells Willard about the village innoculations and the subsequent pile of little severed arms that met the doctors on their return to the village. Pity about the old statues though. I really liked the winged lion, man thing.
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Sin Agog 2253 posts |
Mar 06, 2015, 21:55
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Oh come on! Killing your family, razing your country to the ground, then robbing it of its resources does NOT justify vandalism.
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billding68 1016 posts |
Mar 06, 2015, 23:03
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Howburn Digger wrote: The nutters have smashed up what was left after Britain and the USA carpet bombed the place. How very dare they! Half a million dead Iraqui civilians. Enormous areas of the country covered in depleted Uranium and White Phosphorous. Whole regions have been left with countless plastic mines and other lovely concealed ordnance for which we claimed back costs and expenses for our "services" to Iraq. You're welcome! To take just one tiny isolated example... the US Military carpeted Fallujah with MK77's which are a delightfully potent mix of Napalm and White Phosphorous. The first battle of Fallujah was a overwhelming US Military strike on the small town in retaliation for the killing of four Blackwater mercenaries who had been killed and their bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates. You might have watched the Blackwater Guys "fun day out"footage on Liveleak, where they drive down the main street in Fallujah just shooting civilians and drivers while playing Elvis songs really loudly over their PA. The US referred to the subsequent military action as a "pacification" of Fallujah. Over 600 unarmed civilians were killed by the US military in this "pacification" process. The ISIL (now ISIS) nutters whom the UK and US used to try and destabilise Syria have been fed, watered, paid, clothed, armed and trained by us. They've witnessed how to do things. Abu Ghraib? That's nothin we're gonna burn a guy in a cage! The Cradle of Civilisation and those wonders of Archaeology? Those bits that the coalition deemed unfit to bomb, loot or plunder in the last two Iraq wars? There wasn't a whole lot left really... The UK and USA bombed that country back to the Stone Age and sent a clear message. I think some people were listening and heard it loud and clear. Let us not confuse Time Team watched over Roast Beef, gravy and potatoes on a Sunday Afternoon in rural Oxfordshire, with the daily horror of life and death in Iraq and Syria. Wholesale slaughter and carnage which the West unleashed, fed and created. Remember in Apocalypse Now, the story that Kurtz tells Willard about the village innoculations and the subsequent pile of little severed arms that met the doctors on their return to the village. Pity about the old statues though. I really liked the winged lion, man thing. 1st half a million dead is not accurate (not that it is the issue here and that's not my point at all) But lets just fucking give every godamn fucker as pass to do what they want as everyone has been wronged at one time or another. To imply that this sort of action is an acceptable response is the same as condoning it. To which I say society as a whole is lost if most think along your lines. These are not the civilians of Iraq destroying these artifacts its the extreme Islamic MoFo's who want to wipe the history that doesn't jive with their perverted beliefs off the map. think 1st respond 2nd.
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GLADMAN 950 posts |
Mar 06, 2015, 23:06
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Howburn Digger wrote: The nutters have smashed up what was left after Britain and the USA carpet bombed the place. How very dare they! Half a million dead Iraqui civilians. Enormous areas of the country covered in depleted Uranium and White Phosphorous. Whole regions have been left with countless plastic mines and other lovely concealed ordnance for which we claimed back costs and expenses for our "services" to Iraq. You're welcome! To take just one tiny isolated example... the US Military carpeted Fallujah with MK77's which are a delightfully potent mix of Napalm and White Phosphorous. The first battle of Fallujah was a overwhelming US Military strike on the small town in retaliation for the killing of four Blackwater mercenaries who had been killed and their bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates. You might have watched the Blackwater Guys "fun day out"footage on Liveleak, where they drive down the main street in Fallujah just shooting civilians and drivers while playing Elvis songs really loudly over their PA. The US referred to the subsequent military action as a "pacification" of Fallujah. Over 600 unarmed civilians were killed by the US military in this "pacification" process. The ISIL (now ISIS) nutters whom the UK and US used to try and destabilise Syria have been fed, watered, paid, clothed, armed and trained by us. They've witnessed how to do things. Abu Ghraib? That's nothin we're gonna burn a guy in a cage! The Cradle of Civilisation and those wonders of Archaeology? Those bits that the coalition deemed unfit to bomb, loot or plunder in the last two Iraq wars? There wasn't a whole lot left really... The UK and USA bombed that country back to the Stone Age and sent a clear message. I think some people were listening and heard it loud and clear. Let us not confuse Time Team watched over Roast Beef, gravy and potatoes on a Sunday Afternoon in rural Oxfordshire, with the daily horror of life and death in Iraq and Syria. Wholesale slaughter and carnage which the West unleashed, fed and created. Remember in Apocalypse Now, the story that Kurtz tells Willard about the village innoculations and the subsequent pile of little severed arms that met the doctors on their return to the village. Pity about the old statues though. I really liked the winged lion, man thing. Isn't this the way history replays itself, though? Chamberlain and his ludicrous boy Halifax allow Hitler to rearm, so leading irrevocably to holocaust and the agonising death of millions. Hey, who was to know? It wasn't as if the Austrian loon had written a book telling the world what he would do.... Hirohito, a clueless aristocrat - sorry, god - the Japanese people all obeying Buddists, easy pickings for a military takeover. The USA, 'ruled' by J Edgar Hoover, arguably as much a fascist state as any axis example, employing the same Kardex files Heydrich put in place. So who's side would you be on. Are you serious? Have you read any German literature from the 40's? Exactly. If the individual is not free to express him/herself we might as well give up. OK. to be honest I sometimes wonder if there are any 'good guys'. But... does massacring religious nutters intent on following the imaginary - in my opinion, anyway - declarations of an, er, invisible entity (just happening to serve the interests of a powerful elite... fancy that) to kill all unbelievers not pure self defence? Or do you believe the SS were just misunderstood? I took antibiotics in January since I just could not shake off an awful parasitic virus on my own. I killed it and I was overjoyed. Religion is a virus. In one person it is an idiosyncrasity. In many, very, very dangerous. A cancer upon the concept of humans actually getting along together. W and his boy Tone, infused with the 'love' of Jesus, decided a'crusading we will go. That'll show the bastards for taking back Krak de Chevalliers. That poor doctor Kelly apparently 'commited suicide' for the crime of pointing out the obvious. Iraq was already in the Stoneage. How could it be otherwise, when 'knowledge' begins and ends with the Qu'ran? It is all to easy to say the awful infidel West has destroyed Iraq. To a degree. But doesn't Iraq have a significant responsibility itself?
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tjj 3606 posts |
Mar 07, 2015, 12:31
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billding68 wrote: Howburn Digger wrote: The nutters have smashed up what was left after Britain and the USA carpet bombed the place. How very dare they! Half a million dead Iraqui civilians. Enormous areas of the country covered in depleted Uranium and White Phosphorous. Whole regions have been left with countless plastic mines and other lovely concealed ordnance for which we claimed back costs and expenses for our "services" to Iraq. You're welcome! To take just one tiny isolated example... the US Military carpeted Fallujah with MK77's which are a delightfully potent mix of Napalm and White Phosphorous. The first battle of Fallujah was a overwhelming US Military strike on the small town in retaliation for the killing of four Blackwater mercenaries who had been killed and their bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates. You might have watched the Blackwater Guys "fun day out"footage on Liveleak, where they drive down the main street in Fallujah just shooting civilians and drivers while playing Elvis songs really loudly over their PA. The US referred to the subsequent military action as a "pacification" of Fallujah. Over 600 unarmed civilians were killed by the US military in this "pacification" process. The ISIL (now ISIS) nutters whom the UK and US used to try and destabilise Syria have been fed, watered, paid, clothed, armed and trained by us. They've witnessed how to do things. Abu Ghraib? That's nothin we're gonna burn a guy in a cage! The Cradle of Civilisation and those wonders of Archaeology? Those bits that the coalition deemed unfit to bomb, loot or plunder in the last two Iraq wars? There wasn't a whole lot left really... The UK and USA bombed that country back to the Stone Age and sent a clear message. I think some people were listening and heard it loud and clear. Let us not confuse Time Team watched over Roast Beef, gravy and potatoes on a Sunday Afternoon in rural Oxfordshire, with the daily horror of life and death in Iraq and Syria. Wholesale slaughter and carnage which the West unleashed, fed and created. Remember in Apocalypse Now, the story that Kurtz tells Willard about the village innoculations and the subsequent pile of little severed arms that met the doctors on their return to the village. Pity about the old statues though. I really liked the winged lion, man thing. 1st half a million dead is not accurate (not that it is the issue here and that's not my point at all) But lets just fucking give every godamn fucker as pass to do what they want as everyone has been wronged at one time or another. To imply that this sort of action is an acceptable response is the same as condoning it. To which I say society as a whole is lost if most think along your lines. These are not the civilians of Iraq destroying these artifacts its the extreme Islamic MoFo's who want to wipe the history that doesn't jive with their perverted beliefs off the map. think 1st respond 2nd. I've read both these posts (and Gladman's) with a very heavy heart. Planet Earth is in deep crisis, brought about by one species alone - homo sapiens. We can't turn the clock back and undo the damage done by the West as a knee-jerk reaction to 9/11 or the historical events leading up to it. Most of us felt the world as we knew it (in the West anyway) changed that day. Hell has been unleashed and there are very few places left to run. Looks like spring outside here in Wiltshire, England. Off out to look at some primroses and daffodils. If I'm very lucky may spot that green woodpecker again. That's all that's left really, and perhaps why so many people look to Nature, our precious stone circles and other ancient sites. The future of our world is too grim to contemplate for long ... for many reasons.
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Howburn Digger 986 posts |
Mar 07, 2015, 12:35
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billding68 wrote: Howburn Digger wrote: The nutters have smashed up what was left after Britain and the USA carpet bombed the place. How very dare they! Half a million dead Iraqui civilians. Enormous areas of the country covered in depleted Uranium and White Phosphorous. Whole regions have been left with countless plastic mines and other lovely concealed ordnance for which we claimed back costs and expenses for our "services" to Iraq. You're welcome! To take just one tiny isolated example... the US Military carpeted Fallujah with MK77's which are a delightfully potent mix of Napalm and White Phosphorous. The first battle of Fallujah was a overwhelming US Military strike on the small town in retaliation for the killing of four Blackwater mercenaries who had been killed and their bodies hung from a bridge over the Euphrates. You might have watched the Blackwater Guys "fun day out"footage on Liveleak, where they drive down the main street in Fallujah just shooting civilians and drivers while playing Elvis songs really loudly over their PA. The US referred to the subsequent military action as a "pacification" of Fallujah. Over 600 unarmed civilians were killed by the US military in this "pacification" process. The ISIL (now ISIS) nutters whom the UK and US used to try and destabilise Syria have been fed, watered, paid, clothed, armed and trained by us. They've witnessed how to do things. Abu Ghraib? That's nothin we're gonna burn a guy in a cage! The Cradle of Civilisation and those wonders of Archaeology? Those bits that the coalition deemed unfit to bomb, loot or plunder in the last two Iraq wars? There wasn't a whole lot left really... The UK and USA bombed that country back to the Stone Age and sent a clear message. I think some people were listening and heard it loud and clear. Let us not confuse Time Team watched over Roast Beef, gravy and potatoes on a Sunday Afternoon in rural Oxfordshire, with the daily horror of life and death in Iraq and Syria. Wholesale slaughter and carnage which the West unleashed, fed and created. Remember in Apocalypse Now, the story that Kurtz tells Willard about the village innoculations and the subsequent pile of little severed arms that met the doctors on their return to the village. Pity about the old statues though. I really liked the winged lion, man thing. 1st half a million dead is not accurate (not that it is the issue here and that's not my point at all) But lets just fucking give every godamn fucker as pass to do what they want as everyone has been wronged at one time or another. To imply that this sort of action is an acceptable response is the same as condoning it. To which I say society as a whole is lost if most think along your lines. These are not the civilians of Iraq destroying these artifacts its the extreme Islamic MoFo's who want to wipe the history that doesn't jive with their perverted beliefs off the map. think 1st respond 2nd. Half a million is at the lower end of the estimate. I trust The Lancet's count over The Blackwater guys guesstimate. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lancet_surveys_of_Iraq_War_casualties I think you are right. Britain and the USA should have thought first before they unleashed Armageddon on Iraq ("think 1st respond 2nd"). Oh yeah.. sorry... they did think first... and decided to do it anyway. They weren't even responding to anything. Iraq hadn't attacked anyone. And neither has Syria or Iran. Remember that. Like the "burning-a-guy-alive-in-a-cage-video" (a recreation in part of the "Viva! Django" Spag Western) it is an attempt to shock the people of the West. "How unthinking of them! What uncivilised savages they must be!". I think it has shocked some people. Old statues being smashed up really shocks people. They got your attention now?
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