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Littlestone
Littlestone
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Silbury Hill trespassers
Jan 07, 2013, 09:49
Silbury Hill trespassers causing 'spectacular' damage
Harryshill
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Re: Silbury Hill trespassers
Jan 07, 2013, 10:30
Time somebody was prosecuted for causing damage.

Under these conditions, you would think it provable.
nigelswift
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Re: Silbury Hill trespassers
Jan 07, 2013, 10:36
The problem is one person doesn't cause damage, a thousand do. So each person can say "I didn't cause damage" which is both the truth and dishonest.
Evergreen Dazed
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Silbury Hill trespassers
Jan 07, 2013, 11:03
Hmmm. An unfailingly intense and contentious topic on TMA. Whilst I don't doubt it's worthwhile posting a link to the story, I think we all know only too well how threads about climbing Silbury tend to go here.
'Famous', in fact, for it's ability to bring mayhem to this community, i'd say.

The forum has been good lately, it would be a shame for this to turn into one of 'those' threads.

Some of us think climbing Silbury is ok and will continue to do it, others don't. We never seem to get any further than that, whether Jim Leary says its causing damage or not!
Harryshill
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Re: Silbury Hill trespassers
Jan 07, 2013, 11:15
I was thinking about the law, regardless off what people think of climbing the monument, trespass with damage can be dealt with in a Court.

If damage can be seen to be done in the present weather conditions then now is the time to prosecute .

Caught on camera, that sort of thing.
Evergreen Dazed
Evergreen Dazed
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Edited Jan 07, 2013, 11:20
Re: Silbury Hill trespassers
Jan 07, 2013, 11:19
Harryshill wrote:
I was thinking about the law, regardless off what people think of climbing the monument, trespass with damage can be dealt with in a Court.

If damage can be seen to be done in the present weather conditions then now is the time to prosecute .

Caught on camera, that sort of thing.


As Nigel pointed out, I don't think theres too much that can be achieved in that sense.

As has been said a million times here, better signage and fencing would be a start. Esp 'round the back' where people tend to go up, out of sight.
Harryshill
510 posts

Re: Silbury Hill trespassers
Jan 07, 2013, 11:27
Still seems worth a try.

Whats the point of Damage with trespassed laws if you don't use them
bladup
bladup
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Edited Jan 07, 2013, 11:46
Re: Silbury Hill trespassers
Jan 07, 2013, 11:37
Nobody doubts that lots of people climbing up in bad weather will cause some damage, but while they've got foot stools to get you over the fence [if they want to keep people out even evil razor wire won't stop someone if they really want to go up] and if they allow "certain" people up [terry], others will always feel that this is very unfair, and at the end of the day it's a clear case of archaeologist's trying to blame peoples feet for the damage "they've" done, I was there the other week and you can clearly see the waden hill side is caving in, it's lower everytime i see it, even though it's supposedly all filled in, I think we may soon see a big cave in [i really hope not], and i tell you the 'spectacular' damage hasn't been caused by peoples feet but by all the digging from those destroying archaeologist's over the years with all there bigger and bigger holes, this is a clear case of those idiots [archaeologist's] trying to shift the blame, and like evergreen said is it worth opening this can of worms? so soon after we've all given our opinions and it's still fresh in peoples minds and if you felt the need why not bring the old thread back so that everyone's opinion would be there for all to see.
bladup
bladup
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Edited Jan 07, 2013, 12:02
Re: Silbury Hill trespassers
Jan 07, 2013, 11:42
Harryshill wrote:
I was thinking about the law, regardless off what people think of climbing the monument, trespass with damage can be dealt with in a Court.

If damage can be seen to be done in the present weather conditions then now is the time to prosecute .

Caught on camera, that sort of thing.


It's very hard to prosecute anyone for Trespass in reality, i should know because if i need to go anywhere i'll go no matter what anybody say's, how do you think i got to Robin hood's ball and Yhys Hir [and lots of others], i certainly wasn't going to ask any bombing bastards if it was ok!!! [i don't even ask landowners either unless it's in what i'd call their garden, like the Harestane stone circle in peeblesshire], see if you can find anyone ever been done with trespass of an ancient site, we have to be able to get to them, to use the things, if not they just become sculptures to just look at and that would be bollocks and pointless.
Harryshill
510 posts

Re: Silbury Hill trespassers
Jan 07, 2013, 11:53
I'm not trying to get anybody prosecuted for trespass.

I'm thinking Trespass with damage.
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