Littlestone
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Edited May 01, 2011, 08:47
Re: Living Heritage Threat
May 01, 2011, 07:44
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Yes heard that on the news this morning and thought the same TSC.
Although allotments don’t benefit the majority of us it’s a facet of our society that’s admired by many countries and should be protected. I’d like to see some changes though. Restrictions on what you can and cannot do on allotments need to be looked at if they’re going to survive. I had a lawn on part of mine, which was allowed and where I also grew flowers - great if you have young children but no garden of your own. Some local authorities allow beekeeping some don’t. Most allow you to keep rabbits but not hens.
Always thought one way to encourage a wider interest in allotments would be to allow allotment holders to sell their produce directly from their allotment if they wanted to – maybe that is allowed by some authorities but it isn’t by the one here.
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nigelswift
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Re: Living Heritage Threat
May 01, 2011, 08:24
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"Government of asset stripping super priviledged philistines."
Well, we should all get out and vote yes to AV next Thursday, the most important vote we'll ever have.
Hardly ideal but it WILL reduce the number of periods when the country is run by asset stripping super priviledged philistines over the next hundred years. It's not often you can do anything seriously good for the country long term, but that is a definite way.
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The Sea Cat
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Edited May 01, 2011, 08:25
Re: Living Heritage Threat
May 01, 2011, 08:25
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This is getting too predictable, sorry. Well they may have backed off, for the moment, re. the Forests, but now it seems they're after a smaller prize - our allotments. We've had them and been using them since Saxon times. Very soon, the ability for many people to enjoy growing their own produce, and therefore helping the environment etc, will be gone... IF they get their way.
The Green Tories..... A contradiction in terms is an understatement, and you can't overstate the insulting contempt of this Government.
http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/house-and-home/gardening/exclusive-the-end-of-the-good-life-2277463.html
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The Sea Cat
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Re: Living Heritage Threat
May 01, 2011, 09:10
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Littlestone wrote: Yes heard that on the news this morning and thought the same TSC.
Although allotments don’t benefit the majority of us it’s a facet of our society that’s admired by many countries and should be protected. I’d like to see some changes though. Restrictions on what you can and cannot do on allotments need to be looked at if they’re going to survive. I had a lawn on part of mine, which was allowed and where I also grew flowers - great if you have young children but no garden of your own. Some local authorities allow beekeeping some don’t. Most allow you to keep rabbits but not hens.
Always thought one way to encourage a wider interest in allotments would be to allow allotment holders to sell their produce directly from their allotment if they wanted to – maybe that is allowed by some authorities but it isn’t by the one here.
Absolutely, but the issue that we're really referring to here is fundamental quality of life for the ordinary person/household etc. Allotments/Forests/Libraries/The Arts, and their vital importance, means absolutley nothing to this Government of asset stripping super priviledged philistines. Heritage, Culture and Knowledge is empowerment and that's a threat. We need to be put back in our rightful place, expect nothing, and be grateful for it. The sound of their jeering and braying when announcing the cuts was enough to make my blood turn cold and boil at the same time, if that's possible....
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The Sea Cat
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Re: Living Heritage Threat
May 01, 2011, 09:13
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I take your point, but I do think that politics can be relevant on the MA when it involves our heritage, as I hope the original premise of this thread should demonstrate. It can be a very blurred area sometimes.
:-)
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The Sea Cat
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Edited May 01, 2011, 09:34
Re: Living Heritage Threat
May 01, 2011, 09:34
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nigelswift wrote: "Government of asset stripping super priviledged philistines."
Well, we should all get out and vote yes to AV next Thursday, the most important vote we'll ever have.
Hardly ideal but it WILL reduce the number of periods when the country is run by asset stripping super priviledged philistines over the next hundred years. It's not often you can do anything seriously good for the country long term, but that is a definite way.
Bravo!
I'm hoping for a last minute surge of common sense from the voting public on this one, and maybe then we may be able to preserve so many aspects of our culture and heritage for future generations as well as ourselves.
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moss
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Re: Living Heritage Threat
May 01, 2011, 10:20
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Aside from rotten conservative governments there is the history of the allotment here....
http://www.bkthisandthat.org.uk/ShortHistoryOfAllotmentshtml.html
and the historic struggle to keep them alive as part of the social conscience, which of course is not part of new conservative thinking
Well as someone who has been 'green' for 30 years or more and had allotments, I would have thought they were a flourishing success with many overbooked for years to come. Its the local councils that will have to fight this one, this government just changes the rules to its own advantage, and then ducks when the flack flies. Sodding cowards the lot of them (sorry)
Out with Conservatives in with Conservation! ;)
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nigelswift
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Re: Living Heritage Threat
May 01, 2011, 10:44
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As with the forests, the rights and wrongs of allotments are mere smokescreens. The plan is to get land for their mates to make money out of. That's all. If it walks like a duck it's a duck. I'm old enough to remember the Margaret duck handed £150K to every one of her supporters that had a tumbledown barn by allowing them to convert them to houses - and the purpose she said was "to preserve the character of our rural heritage".....
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The Sea Cat
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Re: Living Heritage Threat
May 01, 2011, 12:02
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moss wrote: Aside from rotten conservative governments there is the history of the allotment here....
http://www.bkthisandthat.org.uk/ShortHistoryOfAllotmentshtml.html
and the historic struggle to keep them alive as part of the social conscience, which of course is not part of new conservative thinking
Well as someone who has been 'green' for 30 years or more and had allotments, I would have thought they were a flourishing success with many overbooked for years to come. Its the local councils that will have to fight this one, this government just changes the rules to its own advantage, and then ducks when the flack flies. Sodding cowards the lot of them (sorry)
Out with Conservatives in with Conservation! ;)
Well said and thanks for the very informative link.
:-)
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The Sea Cat
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Re: Living Heritage Threat
May 01, 2011, 12:04
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That's the bottom line. Money for themselves and their ilk.
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