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dee 1955 posts |
May 02, 2009, 10:13
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oooh!... You kinky beast! Ha ha ha! Skin up and enjoy the weekend! Its great music whichever way you listen to it! Nice one for the heads up!
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earthlingfred93 1115 posts |
May 02, 2009, 10:33
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dee wrote: oooh!... You kinky beast! Ha ha ha! Skin up and enjoy the weekend! Its great music whichever way you listen to it! Nice one for the heads up! Well we're playing with mugstar today at windermere so it should be a good crack!! Are you off to see Roky at the forum Dee? I'm gonna get a ticket but I'm worried that I wont hear another proper norven accent down there amongst all them savverners speaking in that weird jelly eels fing!!
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dee 1955 posts |
May 02, 2009, 10:50
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enjoy the gig, mugstar are far out! Yeah, i wanna see roky, i will get my ticket soon, we could hook up, i'll be wearing me flat cap arf arf
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Popel Vooje 5373 posts |
Edited May 02, 2009, 11:53
May 02, 2009, 11:47
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earthlingfred93 wrote: showing people how to download that crappy vinyl version of Cold sun's 'Dark Shadows'?..... Well I deserve it....and my arse is smarting. He is right and I've already ordered my copy of the WIS remaster...godlike!! XXX It doesn't seem to me as though he was telling you off - after all, he promoted the Germanofon editions of the Neu! and early Kraftwerk albums in "Krautrocksampler" in spite of them being bootlegs that were transferred directly from vinyl. I think he was just pointing out that the sound quality on the re-mastered version is superior and that both people who buy it and the band themselves are getting a better deal that way.
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Jim Tones 5142 posts |
May 02, 2009, 16:02
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What I find strange about all this, is that JC never replies to any comments- Unless of course, he's going under a pseudonym (cough!) I also believe that some folk on here, actually think that he doesn't read every comment on every section of H2H! Maybe the 'mystique' would be ruined for some people if he did reply. ;-)
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Merrick 2148 posts |
Edited May 02, 2009, 17:03
May 02, 2009, 16:33
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Citizensmurf wrote: the notion of destroying capitalism (and American Capitalism at that, as though it merited a seperate entry in Webster's) is completely ridiculous. In what way is it more ridiculous than continuing capitalism? Capitalism requires perpetual economic growth. 'Economic growth' is largely a way of saying 'consumption of resources, most of them finite'. It doesn't take a genius to work out why you can't have infinite consumption of finite resources. To believe it is literally insane. That is the basis of capitalism. The crunch has to come some time, and an aware, managed and just withdrawal is preferable to accelerating toward the cliff edge. Citizensmurf wrote: carrying a sign and beating a drum isn't going to do a thing No one action ever achieves overthrow of anything. But collectively, they engender a cultural environment where change becomes possible. As Stephen Stills said in For What It's Worth, the signs mostly say 'hurrah for our side'. But that's OK, it empowers and emboldens people to know they're not alone, it increases the momentum for change. Citizensmurf wrote: King explicitly draws attention to the deviance/dissent distinction "In no sense did I advocate evading or defying the law as the rabid segregationist would do. This would lead to anarcy. One who breaks an unjust law must do so openly, lovingly . . . and with a willingness to accept the penalty. I submit that an individual who breaks a law that his conscience tells him is unjust, and willingly accepts the penalty by staying in jail to arouse the conscience of the community over its injustice, is in reality expressing the very highest respect for the law" Whilst Nelson Mandela's incarceration lends a lot of gravitas to the way he's viewed, imagine if, from the start, he and the rest of the ANC had only broken the law openly and always handed themselves in. The whole premise of the revolutionary position is that it does not view the law - the transcribed wishes of the ruling elite - as a fair framework for society. George Orwell said: "There is no revolutionary tradition in England, and even in extremist political parties, it is only the middle-class membership that thinks in revolutionary terms. The masses still more or less assume that "against the law" is a synonym for "wrong". It is known that the criminal law is harsh and full of anomalies and that litigation is so expensive as always to favour the rich against the poor: but there is a general feeling that the law, such as it is, will be scrupulously administered, that a judge or magistrate cannot be bribed, that no one will be punished without trial. An Englishman does not believe in his bones, as a Spanish or Italian peasant does, that the law is simply a racket." Whilst I think that's putting it a little too strong, there is nonetheless a clear element of the law that is just the rich making up rules to suit them, and the judiciary being an executive arm of the same governmental powers that the activists oppose. When you pick the referee out of one of the teams, you don't get a fair game. King presumes a need to have the highest respect for the law. He also presumes that waiting around to get nicked will increase public awareness. There are people rotting in cells in Russia, North Korea and around the world, and more buried in unmarked graves across South America and elsewhere who would tell you otherwise. Closer to home, ten years ago when GM crops were being planted there was a campaign of 'accountable decontaminations'. This involved telling the cops you were going to pull up the crop, meeting them at the field and pulling up the minimum necessary to get nicked. They would get charged and fined and the crops grew on. Other people came in the unannounced and took out whole fields, then left to go and do another crop another night. Both teams garnered a lot of public attention and support, but only the second lot's audacious action actually worked as direct action.
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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
Edited May 02, 2009, 17:49
May 02, 2009, 17:22
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Don't we, the Brits, have 'quiet' revolutions though? Revolutions in all but name? Peasants Revolt and all that. The English Civil War (Parts I & II: Soundtrack by Rick Wakeman, maybe) was really a revolution of sorts. Let's face it, the monarchy was deposed, a king's head was lopped off - how revolutionary do you want to get? The body count in the conflict alone must be indicitive of the sheer volatilty of the collision of ideals that occured. We, the plucky and pale but alarmingly musical Brits, currently exist, for better or worse, as a result of what was, I would have thought, by any standard, revolutionary action. I think the fact that it is taught as a 'war' (or two) rather than a revolution is, perhaps, testament to our nation's collective reluctance to embrace revolution as a 'good thing' rather than an occasional and perhaps necessary 'abberation' that gets things done. Incidentally, I guess politically I would have been a roundhead (up until Cromwell went beserk - power corrupting? I should coco!) but I admit I would be conflicted by the fact that the Cavaliers had much nicer threads and hats.
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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
May 02, 2009, 17:31
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You are a bad man! You are a good bad man. But you're a bad man. I know.... I know.... 8^)
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FOMouse 228 posts |
May 02, 2009, 17:35
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Jim Tones wrote: What I find strange about all this, is that JC never replies to any comments- Unless of course, he's going under a pseudonym (cough!) I also believe that some folk on here, actually think that he doesn't read every comment on every section of H2H! Maybe the 'mystique' would be ruined for some people if he did reply. ;-) Ok I admit it, I am Julia Cope. I have been for ages. Now, if you like my records, send me cakes and pizzas and beer to show your love!! Show it! I want more love than Morrissessessessey gets from his devoted band of hapless, deluded bum nibblers. (Hmmm Wonder if that will work...? Probably shouldn't have said that out loud. fnff)
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FOMouse 228 posts |
May 02, 2009, 17:43
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Bad news. I survived and I know where you live.
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