stray
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Re: Oi, you two!
Nov 21, 2003, 14:44
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I am calm, honest, it's 'im, he's gone all weird and hormonal.
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morfe
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Re: Another disturbing angle . . .
Nov 21, 2003, 15:20
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Land of the fucking FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEGHY!
Terminator 4 Rise of More Robots.
And California is TOO liberal for many Americans ;-)
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Popel Vooje
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Re: Monkey Boy
Nov 21, 2003, 15:26
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Hold on a second, I've just had a thought... That username, Monkey Boy. You ARE Michael Jackson, aren't you?
Tut tut. It's pitchfork time for you, matey.
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Toni Torino
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Re: No you are wrong dude!
Nov 21, 2003, 15:30
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It'd be pretty cool to see Liz Taylor driving Jacko down the freeway at 20mph in a white SUV, closely pursued by 50 patrolcars and 5 TV helicopters. And the white glove would fit....
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Dog 3000
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Hiding in plain sight
Nov 21, 2003, 17:07
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No point getting on moral high-horseys here. No one is acting as "judge, jury, executioner" we're just spouting opinions on the Internet. (Of course you're entitled to yours too.)
But the more I think about it the more I am convinced he's guilty, and there's more to it than just kids.
Just think if he never had all that surgery and he looked like a normal 45 year old man, and he liked to spend his free time sleeping with 12-14 year old GIRLS. Would anyone believe it was non-sexual?
Why do people believe it's non-sexual because he's made himself look like a woman and likes to sleep with 12-14 year old boys?
What really boggles me is people who jump to his defense "it couldn't be true, he's just Peter Pan!" -- talk about swallowing the PR (as in PRopaganda that he's bought and paid for.)
Also, I am convinced he's a prescription drug addict just like Elvis -- on his arrest the other day this guy who's 5'11" (more than 1.8 meters tall) only weighed 120 lbs! (less than 9 stone!) He looks like a junkie! And there's your explanation for wearing the surgical masks and shades all the time -- he's trying to hide the fact that he's high. (And has already publicized at least one trip to rehab too.)
And finally -- I'm convinced that hair of his is a wig too! (Remember the Pepsi ad fire incident -- I don't think he's ever been the same since.)
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morfe
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Re: Hiding in plain sight
Nov 21, 2003, 18:05
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"Just think if he never had all that surgery and he looked like a normal 45 year old man, and he liked to spend his free time sleeping with 12-14 year old GIRLS. Would anyone believe it was non-sexual?"
I am not interested in Michael Jackson, but I'm interested in anthropology, and the moment any adult is 'suspected' of spending time with children other than their own it is VERY likely in our culture that sex will be at the top of the list of questions.
Children need to be protected from sex offenders, but equally adults need to be able to be around children without the constant finger being pointed. That has nothing to do with Miachael Jackson per se, just my disgust at the general state of culture that seems to be getting more media-evil daily.
Having taught 11-18 yr olds, I know (for example) *exactly* the daily horror that is a (special needs) teacher's life in today's culture. He/She (usually 'he') are terrified to be alone with a child for even a few seconds. One false accusation or misperception could mean the end of a meaningful life. When this happens to someone caring and innocent, the injustice is of course every bit as vile and unfortunate as that of the molested child. Of course, the general mindset generated by righteous outrage at paedophiles means that there will be "collateral damage" where innocent adults are sentenced to a life in jail or ostracised and reviled for the remainder of their days. We are 'pro-actively' alert for paedophiles, which is very different than being re-actively alert of, say, murderers. It's a sick culture we have, from our attitudes to sex, to our attitudes to life. We put people like Jackson (remember he just sings a tune and dances) in a position of plainly mind-boggling wealth and deify him, and then expect him to behave like a 'normal' person. Now I hear people saying "He's weird, it doesn't suprise me"
ARGH!
What a fucking mess, whether he is guilty or not, the public will LOVE the show.
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Lawrence
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Re: Monkey Boy
Nov 21, 2003, 18:52
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Hey, don't pick on my pal, man!
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Lawrence
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Re: Another disturbing angle . . .
Nov 21, 2003, 18:54
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Even though that asshole and now senile Ronald Reagan was governor. Those 'conservative' bastards will say anything to make them look better.
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Lawrence
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Re: Hiding in plain sight
Nov 21, 2003, 19:01
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I definitely don't disagree. But Jackson is simply revolting and his behavior inexcusable. Of course the same people railing about child-perverts have not tried to put tyrants like Pinochet to justice for having children tortured and raped...
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Dog 3000
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Re: Hiding in plain sight
Nov 21, 2003, 20:22
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I hear what you're saying, there are too many cases where someone's life has been ruined by false allegations of child molestation.
But at the same time put on your BS detector and tell me which of these theories is more plausible:
Jacko is a drug addict who has sex with children. Because of his fame and obscene wealth, he thinks he is above the law and can get away with anything.
OR
"He's Peter Pan."
And remember that the second of these explanations has been bought and paid for by Jacko's PR machine (the fame and obscene wealth and all that.)
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