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bladup
bladup
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Re: Detailed pictures...Ed's please read
Sep 16, 2012, 12:01
Sanctuary wrote:
bladup wrote:
tjj wrote:
Sanctuary wrote:
bladup wrote:

I really don't get why i'm getting this and nobody else, is it all right on here to say someones idea is shit when they can't prove it is [ and then say later it's in loads of books ], if the answers no i think you should be talking to others as well, i like balance in all things and don't mind what you've said as i pretty much agree but i REALLY hope you're going to tell others how rude they are, as i'd never say someones idea is outright shit [ it's downright rude ], i would just think it!! and for the 3rd time have you read about my experience, i read your negative emotional bit and for balance i think you should read my positive story because it's where i come from, i don't need any of this utter crap, arguing with old people with nothing better to do is no longer for me, as i don't know how it's happened anyway, the kids must have been doing my head in, in the summer holidays and i must have used all this to get away from that, there's sheep dogs on telly did you know?


Yes I read your 'positive' story Paul but didn't reply to it because as I've said before, replying honestly is not always the best course of action to take. I will be honest with you though on this occassion because I feel I have to be because you persist so much. What you do with your life is your business but I base my life and my families lives on what I have seen and experienced and not on what you have. They are two entirely different things. What you are doing is illegal. You are taking and appear to be advocating the use of a Class A drug and quite frankly I think the Ed's should remove the posts from this forum immediately. Freedom of speech is one thing but to appear to be encouraging the use of an illegal substance is totally wrong so I can't in any way agree to what you are doing to yourself or trying to put across to this forum. That is my last word on this but no doubt it will continue to rumble on and detract from far more interesting subjects unless the Ed's take a stand.


Whatever happened to free speech.
I'll be honest ans say I have never taken hallucinogens because I was too scared - sounds like Bladup had a life changing experience but one that would have terrified me if artificially induced.
What has been going on here has started to seem like 'bear-baiting' to me - why didn't you all just stop many posts back. And that includes Tiompan ... was baffled as to why someone of his standing on this forum didn't just walk away.

Remember the 'Clan of the Cave Bear' strategy (the one that's been aimed at my presence here for so long ... it works).


Thank you tjj i'm begining to realise that you're a being of light too [ an angel ], you have warmed my heart, i believe with my wholeheart in freedom of speech too.


Against my better judgement I am back for one more go because it is important and I wish others would back me up on this. Paul, your freedom of speech could land you and your family in very deep water. You have openly admitted over and over that you continually (almost) have mushies AN ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE...A CLASS A DRUG and a prisonable offence!
The world and his wife break into this site and that could inlude the Old Bill. What do you think would happen if you were to go down to your family whist spending time under Her Majesty's pleasure and to you afterwards for possession? No work or chance of getting it so even more time to wander around checking out the stones...but at what cost.
I keep trying to tell you that I'm only saying what I am for your own good, as I see it, through an unclouded vision of real life and having experienced it through my own son, not an 'enhanced' one. Please see it as such. I'm a friend not your enemy.


You can't be done for things you have taken in the past, i understand your concerns and fully appreciate them, it's all years ago, they really did save my life as i felt i had nothing to live for and they gave me a whole new outlook on life and this enabled me to settle down and have my family- and be a "little" more normal, i have said these things on here because with mushrooms there "is" a flipside [ lots of people have had amazing things happen on them ] to the horror stories you hear about, i'm entitled to tell a positive story just as much as your entitled to tell a horror story [ i like balance ] and please remember that the DRUG alcohol does more damage in this world than any other substance, it's only judged differently because someone in a past government decided they could make lots of money from it, they've always known how bad it is for you, look at the gin alleys in london in the past. please please remember if you drink alcohol it makes you a hypocrite and how the hell do you say you believe in freedom of speech when you are trying to take my words away.
bladup
bladup
1986 posts

Re: Detailed pictures...Ed's please read
Sep 16, 2012, 12:03
goffik wrote:
Nah, yer right to be defensive. I was actually going to make a serious point on the back of it but ran out of time. If you can contain your anticipation I might try again later.

G x


If your brave enough!! step into the bear pit.
bladup
bladup
1986 posts

Re: Detailed pictures...Ed's please read
Sep 16, 2012, 12:13
nigelswift wrote:
bladup wrote:
Sanctuary wrote:
Sanctuary wrote:
bladup wrote:

I really don't get why i'm getting this and nobody else, is it all right on here to say someones idea is shit when they can't prove it is [ and then say later it's in loads of books ], if the answers no i think you should be talking to others as well, i like balance in all things and don't mind what you've said as i pretty much agree but i REALLY hope you're going to tell others how rude they are, as i'd never say someones idea is outright shit [ it's downright rude ], i would just think it!! and for the 3rd time have you read about my experience, i read your negative emotional bit and for balance i think you should read my positive story because it's where i come from, i don't need any of this utter crap, arguing with old people with nothing better to do is no longer for me, as i don't know how it's happened anyway, the kids must have been doing my head in, in the summer holidays and i must have used all this to get away from that, there's sheep dogs on telly did you know?


Yes I read your 'positive' story Paul but didn't reply to it because as I've said before, replying honestly is not always the best course of action to take. I will be honest with you though on this occassion because I feel I have to be because you persist so much. What you do with your life is your business but I base my life and my families lives on what I have seen and experienced and not on what you have. They are two entirely different things. What you are doing is illegal. You are taking and appear to be advocating the use of a Class A drug and quite frankly I think the Ed's should remove the posts from this forum immediately. Freedom of speech is one thing but to appear to be encouraging the use of an illegal substance is totally wrong so I can't in any way agree to what you are doing to yourself or trying to put across to this forum. That is my last word on this but no doubt it will continue to rumble on and detract from far more interesting subjects unless the Ed's take a stand.



Sorry, forgot this

http://www.talktofrank.com/drug/magic-mushrooms


I can tell you if you've got a strong mind that this is bollocks, you would not believe how many people i've known who's had their minds opened by mushrooms, i have never known anybody have there lives ruined by them, as i have real drugs, and as i've said the equal worst two are alcohol and heroin and if you do drink alcohol - a very strong drug indeed you are a absolute hypocrite.


I suspect he meant you to click on "The Law". Not sure how you getting banged up is going to be of advantage to your family that you so dote on!


Banged up for something i had years ago i don't think i have to worry about, the future may be that scary but were not there yet, and he did have the respect to read about my experience, so good on him for at least thinking about it all, and I respect EVERYONES opinion unlike you.
bladup
bladup
1986 posts

Re: Detailed pictures...Ed's please read
Sep 16, 2012, 12:37
bladup wrote:
Sanctuary wrote:
bladup wrote:
tjj wrote:
Sanctuary wrote:
bladup wrote:

I really don't get why i'm getting this and nobody else, is it all right on here to say someones idea is shit when they can't prove it is [ and then say later it's in loads of books ], if the answers no i think you should be talking to others as well, i like balance in all things and don't mind what you've said as i pretty much agree but i REALLY hope you're going to tell others how rude they are, as i'd never say someones idea is outright shit [ it's downright rude ], i would just think it!! and for the 3rd time have you read about my experience, i read your negative emotional bit and for balance i think you should read my positive story because it's where i come from, i don't need any of this utter crap, arguing with old people with nothing better to do is no longer for me, as i don't know how it's happened anyway, the kids must have been doing my head in, in the summer holidays and i must have used all this to get away from that, there's sheep dogs on telly did you know?


Yes I read your 'positive' story Paul but didn't reply to it because as I've said before, replying honestly is not always the best course of action to take. I will be honest with you though on this occassion because I feel I have to be because you persist so much. What you do with your life is your business but I base my life and my families lives on what I have seen and experienced and not on what you have. They are two entirely different things. What you are doing is illegal. You are taking and appear to be advocating the use of a Class A drug and quite frankly I think the Ed's should remove the posts from this forum immediately. Freedom of speech is one thing but to appear to be encouraging the use of an illegal substance is totally wrong so I can't in any way agree to what you are doing to yourself or trying to put across to this forum. That is my last word on this but no doubt it will continue to rumble on and detract from far more interesting subjects unless the Ed's take a stand.


Whatever happened to free speech.
I'll be honest ans say I have never taken hallucinogens because I was too scared - sounds like Bladup had a life changing experience but one that would have terrified me if artificially induced.
What has been going on here has started to seem like 'bear-baiting' to me - why didn't you all just stop many posts back. And that includes Tiompan ... was baffled as to why someone of his standing on this forum didn't just walk away.

Remember the 'Clan of the Cave Bear' strategy (the one that's been aimed at my presence here for so long ... it works).


Thank you tjj i'm begining to realise that you're a being of light too [ an angel ], you have warmed my heart, i believe with my wholeheart in freedom of speech too.


Against my better judgement I am back for one more go because it is important and I wish others would back me up on this. Paul, your freedom of speech could land you and your family in very deep water. You have openly admitted over and over that you continually (almost) have mushies AN ILLEGAL SUBSTANCE...A CLASS A DRUG and a prisonable offence!
The world and his wife break into this site and that could inlude the Old Bill. What do you think would happen if you were to go down to your family whist spending time under Her Majesty's pleasure and to you afterwards for possession? No work or chance of getting it so even more time to wander around checking out the stones...but at what cost.
I keep trying to tell you that I'm only saying what I am for your own good, as I see it, through an unclouded vision of real life and having experienced it through my own son, not an 'enhanced' one. Please see it as such. I'm a friend not your enemy.


You can't be done for things you have taken in the past, i understand your concerns and fully appreciate them, it's all years ago, they really did save my life as i felt i had nothing to live for and they gave me a whole new outlook on life and this enabled me to settle down and have my family- and be a "little" more normal, i have said these things on here because with mushrooms there "is" a flipside [ lots of people have had amazing things happen on them ] to the horror stories you hear about, i'm entitled to tell a positive story just as much as your entitled to tell a horror story [ i like balance ] and please remember that the DRUG alcohol does more damage in this world than any other substance, it's only judged differently because someone in a past government decided they could make lots of money from it, they've always known how bad it is for you, look at the gin alleys in london in the past. please please remember if you drink alcohol it makes you a hypocrite and how the hell do you say you believe in freedom of speech when you are trying to take my words away.


And in all this i can't believe i've not had to bring up tobacco, another legal massive killer drug [ again because of the money they make from it ], alcohol and tobacco legal and killers, does it make these things alright just because they're legal?
nigelswift
8112 posts

Re: Detailed pictures...Ed's please read
Sep 16, 2012, 12:50
The point is (yet again) everyone knows alcohol and tobacco are bad for you but they dont spend inordinate amounts of energy on the forum saying that also they're fantastic and actually recommend people (youngsters if they come here) to try them. OK?

So you had a great experience with mushrooms and say you've "had more mushrooms than any person i've ever met" but have now stopped. Fine. Job done, whatever the job was.
bladup
bladup
1986 posts

Re: Detailed pictures...Ed's please read
Sep 16, 2012, 13:04
nigelswift wrote:
The point is (yet again) everyone knows alcohol and tobacco are bad for you but they dont spend inordinate amounts of energy on the forum saying that also they're fantastic and actually recommend people (youngsters if they come here) to try them. OK?

So you had a great experience with mushrooms and say you've "had more mushrooms than any person i've ever met" but have now stopped. Fine. Job done, whatever the job was.


I never said i have stopped yet, everything i've wrote about is years ago though [ you should hear some of the other things that have happened to us ], the last time was a few years ago, would you say it was wrong for a shaman to use stuff to make out of bodies happen, as this is the closest comparison to what we do!!! if i need to find something out i will do it again in a instant without any hesitation.
bladup
bladup
1986 posts

Re: Detailed pictures...Ed's please read
Sep 16, 2012, 13:12
bladup wrote:
nigelswift wrote:
The point is (yet again) everyone knows alcohol and tobacco are bad for you but they dont spend inordinate amounts of energy on the forum saying that also they're fantastic and actually recommend people (youngsters if they come here) to try them. OK?

So you had a great experience with mushrooms and say you've "had more mushrooms than any person i've ever met" but have now stopped. Fine. Job done, whatever the job was.


I never said i have stopped yet, everything i've wrote about is years ago though [ you should hear some of the other things that have happened to us ], the last time was a few years ago, would you say it was wrong for a shaman to use stuff to make out of bodies happen, as this is the closest comparison to what we do!!! if i need to find something out i will do it again in a instant without any hesitation.


And there loads of alcohol websites saying how good their drink is and websites where people say the drinks they like the best, and absolutely loads of places to buy it and how good their own drinks are, if this is not encouraging people of any age to drink i don't know what is!!! please start thinking though what you write.
nigelswift
8112 posts

Re: Detailed pictures...Ed's please read
Sep 16, 2012, 13:21
bladup wrote:
would you say it was wrong for a shaman to use stuff to make out of bodies happen


Not wrong, more a bit silly. But I wont be taking that particular bait and I suspect few others will either.
nigelswift
8112 posts

Re: Detailed pictures...Ed's please read
Sep 16, 2012, 13:29
The point Im trying to make (did you read it?) is that no-one is using this forum to trumpet the virtues of alcohol or tobacco. Theyd soon be told to stop if they did.
bladup
bladup
1986 posts

Edited Sep 16, 2012, 13:31
Re: Detailed pictures
Sep 16, 2012, 13:30
bladup wrote:
harestonesdown wrote:
nigelswift wrote:
I dunno about that. They all look like mushrooms to me, which would be consistent with an obsessive interest in mushrooms to the exclusion of anything else. Is that possible? Do mushrooms do that?

BTW, a book about black puddings should be called The Ileum.



My experience of mushrooms.

Use 50 and you'll get a little tingle all over your body, 100 or so and you'll have fits of uncontrollable laughter that can last for several hours, above that amount and you're into tripping territory, substantially more and you're gonna be seeing the world very differently.
My "trips" have mostly been at the lower end with very little visual effects bar enhanced colours, This all depends on body weight of course.

Mushrooms are often misunderstood, you can have real effects without tripping.


I got into this world of stone circles and the like after a big trip on liberty caps [ it wasn't my first trip ], me and a friend had a life changing experience in lincoln at the spot we later built the stone circle, the mushrooms for some reason had gone purple but were still in perfect condition though, we brewed and drank the potion and went for a walk. When we got to the local park everything was glowing with life [ even though it was dark ] and then we seemed to pass though some sort of veil, i was looking around when my friend said paul, paul look at the stars, as i did every one of them linked together in a massive cosmic 3d jigsaw [ i saw all the stars of our solar system join together ] with that a hole appeared near taurus [ i later found the egyptians call this the duat- which means hole in the sky! ] and with that what can only be described as a dragon of energy came out of it, went up and then crashed back down, it pushed me gently to the floor, i laid there my friend leaning into the cosmic wind, i could see the particles passing right though him, and with that it finished, i couldn't move, i told my friend to lay down but he went and sat on the bench to think about what just happened, as he did great purple columns [ the same colour as the mushrooms ] came crashing down in a circle around me [ the later stones of the circle marked these columns ], as the last one crashed into place i started an inner journey, my friend later said he couldn't get into the circle, i was flying down a tunnel, i can only describe it as what it must be like falling from a building before you hit the ground, and bang i was there, everything was a brilliant white and all i could feel was pure love, i had gone from utter fear to utter love in a moment, i was laid down in pure peace when a figure of pure light appeared from my left, the whole place was light, but this figure was an even purer light, it didn't glow though, it was a brilliantly bright pure white light, the figure stood over me, bent over and shook its head, i could see no features but felt a smile just like you feel a smile from a loved one, it then bent over, it's legs either side of mine and touched me on the shoulder, all i can say to describe it would be cosmic love, i thought as it happened hallucinations don't touch you and make you feel like this, it then looked at me again and i felt another smile and it walked off to my right, and with that i was back in the park [ even though i know my body had never left ], as i got up i felt fixed inside [ i'd had a bad break up with a girl i had lived with and had been wild for a time and felt broken inside ] and at that point i knew i had a new life of happiness ahead, which i have had, my friend looked at me with excitement and said what the hell just happened, i said a miracle and we left that park both knowing all sorts about stone circles and that age [ before this i had only ever heard of stonehenge ] that we didn't know before we went to that park on that night [ this was oct 11 1997 ], we both knew that night that we had lots of wonderful places to visit and we've been visiting ever since, i believe the being that touched me to be a higher form of human, and it will always be my most treasured experience because i believe it saved my life, so therefore everything after [ my family ] i owe to that beautiful being of light on that oh so special night, truly life changing, all my love paul.


And remember this life changing experience happened at the exact spot in the picture on my user name, i think you can see it's a very special spot indeed [it reminds me of the nine ladies of stanton moor, and that's also the closest stone circle to it as well], that's why we built the stone circle there 10 years later, to truly mark a special place in the landscape.
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