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tiompan 5758 posts |
Aug 07, 2012, 15:39
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bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: nigelswift wrote: Hmmm, not sharing knowledge isn't confined to academics then! I said i will, when me little old legs are done, i haven't finished by a long shot yet. [ i said 38 but i had to ask my missus as i feel younger- doesn't time fly when you start getting older?] What are thee finds ? A fully intact little flint hand axe [ knapped and polished], parts of axes, spear points, various blades, scrapers, arrowheads and even a flint spoon from norfolk plus loads of different flint tools plus a couple of really old [mesolithic] flint axes and some microliths and lots of bits of beakers, mainly from lincolnshire, norfolk and cornwall, the flint does stand out more here in cornwall because its against the granite. That's why it was always strange finding it in lincolnshire and norfolk, i was never looking, i couldn't see knapped flint in a field full of flint, we was been shown where the settlements were, as they have mostly been [in lincolnshire and norfolk] ploughed out by 4500 years of farming, we would find ourselves in a field somewhere and get a feeling we had been taken to an old settlement and bang we'd stoop down and pick up clearly worked lovely flint pieces [ i know plough damaged flint ], yes we'd found somewhere, it has always happened like that, it's how i've learned about loads of long gone places. Could you show us some pics ? I will do when i can get my daughter to find me the time to help me put them on the computer as i'm useless, i can take the pictures though, what should we do with the pictures, i suppose i could put the little axe picture on the zennor site as it was laying in the peat near some nearby barrows, the other stuff [from new sites] maybe send you personally. look out for the zennor one first as she'll do that one as she's done it before for me and it'll be quick enough for her busy live [ well thats what she puts across ]. The axes , particualrly the Mesolithic one would be interesting . It's not too difficult to put them on here although you might have to make a site page if it was not found close to anything that is already noted here . One was from the field where west ashby henge once was, the other near branston near lincoln [ no known site] plus big mesolithic flint blade from manton warron near scunthope. the flint spoon was a few 100 yards from a barrow near grimes graves [ i know where it all came from]. You should have reported and recorded them all. A flint spoon ? would that be a first for Britain ? grimes grave barrow ? ,at least a few hundred yards away suggests it might not actually be within the scheduled site . No it isn't, i will get round to all that one day, no rush at the moment, i'm still in the middle of it all, and when you have it in your hand you can't help but think of a spoon, you even start scooping. I do know where everything comes from though, thats the important bit, it's all written down, also marked on maps and last but not least it's all in my head. The axe in the pic from Zennor is a cracker ,odd that it is flint in a such an area where greenstone (group 1 ) was the main source . It should be seen and recorded and possibly provenanced . It is and it will be, the beaches in this part of cornwall have lots of flint nodules on [i was really surprised a few years ago when i noticed], marazion beach near st michaels mount has loads and in marazion marsh there is an archaeological flint site. It's probably about timescales, it would have been a lot quicker to make something out of flint than greenstone, but the flipside is a greenstone one should last a lot longer. Lots of flint at Loe Bar . Greenstone at Zennor Head .
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thesweetcheat 6214 posts |
Aug 07, 2012, 17:19
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tjj wrote: Have to be honest and say I haven't been followed this exchange as it started to give me a headache. I congratulate you both on your endurance ... and look at the result. We have photos of some of Bladup's finds and his rather lovely paintings. You are clearly a great mentor Tiompan! All the best J Nice one June. :o)
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drewbhoy 2557 posts |
Aug 07, 2012, 19:17
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What do you mean beautiful in parts :-)
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thesweetcheat 6214 posts |
Aug 07, 2012, 19:27
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drewbhoy wrote: What do you mean beautiful in parts :-) I wondered if you'd notice that. :o)
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bladup 1986 posts |
Edited Aug 07, 2012, 23:27
Aug 07, 2012, 23:25
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It is true though isn't it, from real beauty to mucky farms, [this could describe pretty much anywhere couldn't it?], i'm a little against farms because in lincolnshire where i'm from thats all there is, they've destroyed nearly everything and i'm worried that over time it may also happen to aberdeenshire, your photo's show this brilliantly, i was thinking of broomend of crichie at the time i wrote it, a should be famous/ treasured site but not really going to be is it in that setting, but no really i loved the place just not all the farms, old keig got me as well, a really great site but didn't seem looked after at all, it may have changed as i'm talking about a good few years ago. I can only imagine how much WAS there, it's mindblowing, how long you been visiting places there? and do you know how many local places you have visited in that time? because i'd say you've easily visited the most local sites [and probably gladman for the whole country], you're probably a modern antiquarian record breaker and i'd just like to say cheers for giving this site so much [does this get me out of any trouble????].
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drewbhoy 2557 posts |
Edited Aug 07, 2012, 23:50
Aug 07, 2012, 23:45
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Hey, you're fine. I've been looking at ancient sites most of my life. I think the farmers up here are slowly getting round to protecting sites. Certainly the two I spoke to in Moray yesterday are good examples. As for sites in Moray/Angus/Highland and Aberdeenshire somebody has to make note and record them, but there is a long long way to go. Also hunted quite a lot in the Lake District and Wales. Agree with you about Broomend Of Crichie, at least the henge still survives. Old Keig is still in fine shape, tho the path at the top of the path is booby trapped with spiky things which I saved SC from standing by promptly standing them myself. Nae luck!!
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bladup 1986 posts |
Aug 07, 2012, 23:58
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drewbhoy wrote: Hey, you're fine. I think the farmers up here are slowly getting round to protecting sites. Certainly the two I spoke to in Moray yesterday are good examples. As for sites in Moray/Angus/Highland and Aberdeenshire somebody has to make note and record them. Also hunted quite a lot in the Lake District and Wales. I really glad to hear that, i didn't seem like they realised how important what they had on there farms is [ i think this is maybe because there is so much, so it's not so important to them because they think well what's it matter as there's stuff everywhere] you're like something on their shoulder saying yes i'm watching you, i think that is so important, Keep up the good work, you're a superstar!!
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drewbhoy 2557 posts |
Aug 08, 2012, 00:04
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bladup wrote: drewbhoy wrote: Hey, you're fine. I think the farmers up here are slowly getting round to protecting sites. Certainly the two I spoke to in Moray yesterday are good examples. As for sites in Moray/Angus/Highland and Aberdeenshire somebody has to make note and record them. Also hunted quite a lot in the Lake District and Wales. I really glad to hear that, i didn't seem like they realised how important what they had on there farms is [ i think this is maybe because there is so much, so it's not so important to them because they think well what's it matter as there's stuff everywhere] you're like something on their shoulder saying yes i'm watching you, i think that is so important, Keep up the good work, you're a superstar!! Thank you, somebody has to keep them and the Canmore's of this world on their toes.
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thesweetcheat 6214 posts |
Aug 08, 2012, 07:14
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drewbhoy wrote: Old Keig is still in fine shape, tho the path at the top of the path is booby trapped with spiky things which I saved SC from standing by promptly standing them myself. Nae luck!! ... and I was very grateful.
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thesweetcheat 6214 posts |
Aug 08, 2012, 07:15
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drewbhoy wrote: Old Keig is still in fine shape, tho the path at the top of the path is booby trapped with spiky things which I saved SC from standing by promptly standing them myself. Nae luck!! ... and I was very grateful.
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