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bladup 1986 posts |
Aug 06, 2012, 20:50
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tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: i rollocked somebody for been rude and saying my opinion wasn't as important as his and because i was told i was wrong because a collection of books told him i was wrong, if it was from his own experience i wouldn't have said a thing, it was like having a load of books rammed down your neck, i speak from experience not books, and even when i did speak from burls and barnetts [as i have read these] books i had that rammed back down my throat as well, If you are talking about my comments your wrong again , you seem incapable of reading and understanding even when it gets pointed out a second time . The comment was "You might like to think your opinion might be as valid as anyone else's , but if your opinion is wrong , in this case the continually unaddressed "Stone circles have nothing left in them " it is not ." For the second time , note the use of valid not important and the qualifier . For countless posts you avoided facing up to that error now you are laying the blame on Burl and Barnatt , why didn't you own up to that from the start . Opinion is wrong-----who says? it could be right!! Have you failed to notice the stream of refutations ? It only needs one example to show it is wrong , there are countless examples . In your opinion!! honestly not mine, i mean this, i am not winding you up, we come from such different places ,mindsets and ways of learning that we would probably never agree, you see i've always been shit academically , this is balanced with something else, i do not know [pastlives?] were the knowledge comes from but i trust it with my life- this is the reason why i believe so much and you will never change my mind on what we have been talking about[ you could on other stuff], it's a past live thing you see, and better than books, we can't even meet in the middle as we wouldn't agree where it was!!!! First of all I should make clear that I'm not interested in discussing subjective feelings or experiences at prehistoric sites anymore than than what people feel after listening to Beethoven or 50 cent . Ok you don't accept rational evidence based arguments . That's fine but your problem then is when you meet someone or others with the same attitude who disagrees with you on something that is factual /falsifible , they " know " just as you do .Somebody must be wrong , maybe all , how do decide ? No my reality doesn't have to be the same as [any] somebody else's, my reality is my reality and their reality is their reality, we go though life together but all experience things differently, so everybodies reality is unique to them, there are lots of things where i could think one thing and another person something else and both be right, as you know sometimes they might go together to create something more. Why didn't you say that you would be wrong as everything is proved to be wrong eventually , according to you , and together you could make an even bigger wrong ? Ever hear of the three christs of Ypsilanti ? No!
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bladup 1986 posts |
Aug 06, 2012, 20:52
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texlahoma wrote: Sanctuary wrote: nigelswift wrote: I wish I was him, I'd know more. He wishes he was me as he wouldn't be getting all this abuse from you! "opinions DO NOT HAVE to be backed up or proved right to be valid" I agree if by "to be valid" you mean "to be an entitlement". However if you mean "to be accepted as true" or even "to be accepted as likely to be true" I don't - unless of course some convincing evidence is offered. Then the listener is entitled to weigh it and decide. " i did back it up though" I disagree. A collection of artefacts don't indicate you were led to them by intuition. BTW if they came from scheduled sites you shouldn't really take them and if they didn't you ought to report them. (Who knows, they might end up in a dreaded book and people may learn from them!) I know one thing that is 100% correct.....that Texlahoma never expected his original thread to gain 199 replies (and still counting!!) :-) You're quite right there Your circle unleashed some powerful forces as well as powerful smells.
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texlahoma 891 posts |
Aug 06, 2012, 20:57
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bladup wrote: texlahoma wrote: Sanctuary wrote: nigelswift wrote: I wish I was him, I'd know more. He wishes he was me as he wouldn't be getting all this abuse from you! "opinions DO NOT HAVE to be backed up or proved right to be valid" I agree if by "to be valid" you mean "to be an entitlement". However if you mean "to be accepted as true" or even "to be accepted as likely to be true" I don't - unless of course some convincing evidence is offered. Then the listener is entitled to weigh it and decide. " i did back it up though" I disagree. A collection of artefacts don't indicate you were led to them by intuition. BTW if they came from scheduled sites you shouldn't really take them and if they didn't you ought to report them. (Who knows, they might end up in a dreaded book and people may learn from them!) I know one thing that is 100% correct.....that Texlahoma never expected his original thread to gain 199 replies (and still counting!!) :-) You're quite right there Your circle unleashed some powerful forces as well as powerful smells. Evidently so. I thought we we're on to something.
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Aug 06, 2012, 21:03
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Hmmm, not sharing knowledge isn't confined to academics then!
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bladup 1986 posts |
Aug 06, 2012, 21:21
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nigelswift wrote: Hmmm, not sharing knowledge isn't confined to academics then! I said i will, when me little old legs are done, i haven't finished by a long shot yet. [ i said 38 but i had to ask my missus as i feel younger- doesn't time fly when you start getting older?]
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Aug 06, 2012, 21:56
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bladup wrote: nigelswift wrote: Hmmm, not sharing knowledge isn't confined to academics then! I said i will, when me little old legs are done, i haven't finished by a long shot yet. [ i said 38 but i had to ask my missus as i feel younger- doesn't time fly when you start getting older?] What are thee finds ?
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Aug 06, 2012, 22:03
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bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: i rollocked somebody for been rude and saying my opinion wasn't as important as his and because i was told i was wrong because a collection of books told him i was wrong, if it was from his own experience i wouldn't have said a thing, it was like having a load of books rammed down your neck, i speak from experience not books, and even when i did speak from burls and barnetts [as i have read these] books i had that rammed back down my throat as well, If you are talking about my comments your wrong again , you seem incapable of reading and understanding even when it gets pointed out a second time . The comment was "You might like to think your opinion might be as valid as anyone else's , but if your opinion is wrong , in this case the continually unaddressed "Stone circles have nothing left in them " it is not ." For the second time , note the use of valid not important and the qualifier . For countless posts you avoided facing up to that error now you are laying the blame on Burl and Barnatt , why didn't you own up to that from the start . Opinion is wrong-----who says? it could be right!! Have you failed to notice the stream of refutations ? It only needs one example to show it is wrong , there are countless examples . In your opinion!! honestly not mine, i mean this, i am not winding you up, we come from such different places ,mindsets and ways of learning that we would probably never agree, you see i've always been shit academically , this is balanced with something else, i do not know [pastlives?] were the knowledge comes from but i trust it with my life- this is the reason why i believe so much and you will never change my mind on what we have been talking about[ you could on other stuff], it's a past live thing you see, and better than books, we can't even meet in the middle as we wouldn't agree where it was!!!! First of all I should make clear that I'm not interested in discussing subjective feelings or experiences at prehistoric sites anymore than than what people feel after listening to Beethoven or 50 cent . Ok you don't accept rational evidence based arguments . That's fine but your problem then is when you meet someone or others with the same attitude who disagrees with you on something that is factual /falsifible , they " know " just as you do .Somebody must be wrong , maybe all , how do decide ? No my reality doesn't have to be the same as [any] somebody else's, my reality is my reality and their reality is their reality, we go though life together but all experience things differently, so everybodies reality is unique to them, there are lots of things where i could think one thing and another person something else and both be right, as you know sometimes they might go together to create something more. Sounds like a kind fairyland where you don't have to make any effort , you just know stuff , even if people disagree with you you can both be right and all those who think they know things will proved to be wrong eventually .
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bladup 1986 posts |
Aug 06, 2012, 22:31
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tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: nigelswift wrote: Hmmm, not sharing knowledge isn't confined to academics then! I said i will, when me little old legs are done, i haven't finished by a long shot yet. [ i said 38 but i had to ask my missus as i feel younger- doesn't time fly when you start getting older?] What are thee finds ? A fully intact little flint hand axe [ knapped and polished], parts of axes, spear points, various blades, scrapers, arrowheads and even a flint spoon from norfolk plus loads of different flint tools plus a couple of really old [mesolithic] flint axes and some microliths and lots of bits of beakers, mainly from lincolnshire, norfolk and cornwall, the flint does stand out more here in cornwall because its against the granite. That's why it was always strange finding it in lincolnshire and norfolk, i was never looking, i couldn't see knapped flint in a field full of flint, we was been shown where the settlements were, as they have mostly been [in lincolnshire and norfolk] ploughed out by 4500 years of farming, we would find ourselves in a field somewhere and get a feeling we had been taken to an old settlement and bang we'd stoop down and pick up clearly worked lovely flint pieces [ i know plough damaged flint ], yes we'd found somewhere, it has always happened like that, it's how i've learned about loads of long gone places.
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Aug 06, 2012, 22:38
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bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: nigelswift wrote: Hmmm, not sharing knowledge isn't confined to academics then! I said i will, when me little old legs are done, i haven't finished by a long shot yet. [ i said 38 but i had to ask my missus as i feel younger- doesn't time fly when you start getting older?] What are thee finds ? A fully intact little flint hand axe [ knapped and polished], parts of axes, spear points, various blades, scrapers, arrowheads and even a flint spoon from norfolk plus loads of different flint tools plus a couple of really old [mesolithic] flint axes and some microliths and lots of bits of beakers, mainly from lincolnshire, norfolk and cornwall, the flint does stand out more here in cornwall because its against the granite. That's why it was always strange finding it in lincolnshire and norfolk, i was never looking, i couldn't see knapped flint in a field full of flint, we was been shown where the settlements were, as they have mostly been [in lincolnshire and norfolk] ploughed out by 4500 years of farming, we would find ourselves in a field somewhere and get a feeling we had been taken to an old settlement and bang we'd stoop down and pick up clearly worked lovely flint pieces [ i know plough damaged flint ], yes we'd found somewhere, it has always happened like that, it's how i've learned about loads of long gone places. Could you show us some pics ?
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bladup 1986 posts |
Aug 06, 2012, 22:39
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tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: tiompan wrote: bladup wrote: i rollocked somebody for been rude and saying my opinion wasn't as important as his and because i was told i was wrong because a collection of books told him i was wrong, if it was from his own experience i wouldn't have said a thing, it was like having a load of books rammed down your neck, i speak from experience not books, and even when i did speak from burls and barnetts [as i have read these] books i had that rammed back down my throat as well, If you are talking about my comments your wrong again , you seem incapable of reading and understanding even when it gets pointed out a second time . The comment was "You might like to think your opinion might be as valid as anyone else's , but if your opinion is wrong , in this case the continually unaddressed "Stone circles have nothing left in them " it is not ." For the second time , note the use of valid not important and the qualifier . For countless posts you avoided facing up to that error now you are laying the blame on Burl and Barnatt , why didn't you own up to that from the start . Opinion is wrong-----who says? it could be right!! Have you failed to notice the stream of refutations ? It only needs one example to show it is wrong , there are countless examples . In your opinion!! honestly not mine, i mean this, i am not winding you up, we come from such different places ,mindsets and ways of learning that we would probably never agree, you see i've always been shit academically , this is balanced with something else, i do not know [pastlives?] were the knowledge comes from but i trust it with my life- this is the reason why i believe so much and you will never change my mind on what we have been talking about[ you could on other stuff], it's a past live thing you see, and better than books, we can't even meet in the middle as we wouldn't agree where it was!!!! First of all I should make clear that I'm not interested in discussing subjective feelings or experiences at prehistoric sites anymore than than what people feel after listening to Beethoven or 50 cent . Ok you don't accept rational evidence based arguments . That's fine but your problem then is when you meet someone or others with the same attitude who disagrees with you on something that is factual /falsifible , they " know " just as you do .Somebody must be wrong , maybe all , how do decide ? No my reality doesn't have to be the same as [any] somebody else's, my reality is my reality and their reality is their reality, we go though life together but all experience things differently, so everybodies reality is unique to them, there are lots of things where i could think one thing and another person something else and both be right, as you know sometimes they might go together to create something more. Sounds like a kind fairyland where you don't have to make any effort , you just know stuff , even if people disagree with you you can both be right and all those who think they know things will proved to be wrong eventually . That is so much better than arguing all the time isn't it, what i said is true isn't it- of course what was said before is true as well, water boiling been the same and stuff like that, but it is true that everyones reality IS different.
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