Gwass
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 20:14
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Dunno bout anyone else but I like a bit of the 'shamanic' explanation.
Not that there is any way to prove this of course and it's probably bollox (I just like the idea!) but the precedence set by current neolithic/bronze age style tribal cultures which anthropologists have studied makes sense to me. The whole chanting/drumming/hallucenegic altered states at rock faces, when people are trying to make sense of the landscape around them when it's likely spirits and ancestors were a very real part of their world.
Saw this link posted on TMA on the Badger stone site which I found very intersting. It suggests that the symbols could represent the surrounding landscape, not the physical one but a psychological landscape in peoples minds. Plus the guy takes hallucenegenic drugs and does a bit of chanting and the rock morphs into the Lewis-Williams style shapes of the internal mind which they may have tried to represenmt on the rock face. All good stuff and well written!
http://dreamflesh.com/essays/rockpsych/
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Gwass
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 20:46
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Chris Collyer wrote: The picture of cup and rings about three quarters of the way down the first link is amazing (Photo 18: Libya. Messak. Cup and Ring marked rock above decorated rock Shelter). You could change the sand in the background for pasture and it wouldn't look out of place in Northumberland or Scotland.
-Chris
Yeah I totally agree, amazing!
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Kozmik_Ken
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 21:12
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Hob wrote: You know, I've still not been to Ilkley. I am missing out I know.
If you ever make it to Ilkley Hob - let me know and I'll guide you around. You'd love it!
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Hob
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 23:38
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It's efinitely on the cards at some point. I'll give you a shout a while before I start trying to set a date. it would be most excellent :)
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megadread
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 22, 2010, 01:15
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Hob wrote: It's efinitely on the cards at some point. I'll give you a shout a while before I start trying to set a date. it would be most excellent :)
Make it a northern mini meet. !
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Kozmik_Ken
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 22, 2010, 21:12
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Aye - I promised you one of my guided tours too didn't I Geoff. You will not be disappointed!
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megadread
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 22, 2010, 22:06
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Kozmik_Ken wrote: Aye - I promised you one of my guided tours too didn't I Geoff. You will not be disappointed!
Set a date suitable to everyone, i'll be there. : )
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faerygirl
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 23, 2010, 17:45
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Chris Collyer wrote: I've posted another picture of the 'Man Stone' , here is what I wrote about it elsewhere
"The carving itself is quite striking - is it a human figure wearing a hat or wielding a bow, or is the upper part of the carving a second figure being held aloft or jumping over the lower figure? The interpretation might depend upon a faint possible cup mark at the top of the carving. In the picture I've shown this small mark as does Chappell in his illustration on Paul Bennett's website The Northern Antiquarian. If the mark is indeed deliberate then the second human figure theory might seem more likely."
I then added the cop-out clause "What it might mean or symbolise is of course anybody's guess."
-Chris
Looks like another spaceman to me...
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/post/89016/tregiffian.html
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faerygirl
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 23, 2010, 18:25
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Resonox wrote: Are there any recorded "prehistoric" carvings in the UK of anything other than cups and spirals?...Other than things like the Cissbury paintings, I can't think of anything carved..the oldest I know for sure being pictish...anyone more clued up?
oh thought of some more :)
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/post/12799/deaths_head_rock.html
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/95/swastika_stone.html
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faerygirl
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 23, 2010, 18:29
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faerygirl wrote:
OH and Andrew Collins says there is a swan carved on stone #25S at Avebury. It looks more like a snake eating its own tail to me...
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