Resonox
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 15:25
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Are there any recorded "prehistoric" carvings in the UK of anything other than cups and spirals?...Other than things like the Cissbury paintings, I can't think of anything carved..the oldest I know for sure being pictish...anyone more clued up?
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tjj
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 15:59
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Resonox wrote: Are there any recorded "prehistoric" carvings in the UK of anything other than cups and spirals?...Other than things like the Cissbury paintings, I can't think of anything carved..the oldest I know for sure being pictish...anyone more clued up?
There is an intricately carved axe head in the European Prehistory Room at the Ashmolean in Oxford (in the same display case as the exquisite jadeite axe heads) - Bronze Age I think, though may be later. When I say carved I mean that the cutting edge of the axe head has small engraved markings on it; definitely worth taking a look.
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baza
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 16:29
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Creswell Crags:
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/post/36611/creswell_crags.html
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Chris Collyer
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 16:32
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Do you mean figurative rather than (what appears to us) abstract? Here's a few -
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/11311/goatscrag.html
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/3067/creswell_crags.html
there's axes and a dagger at Stonehenge-
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/609/stonehenge_graffiti_dagger_stone.html
there's supposed to be a couple of axes(?) carved in relief at Boscawen-un but I've never seen pictures of them. For the foot fetishists there's these -
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/3258/pool_farm_cist.html
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/248/calderstones.html
I think there are some figurative carvings in Scotland but the sites escape me at the moment.
-Chris
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Chris Collyer
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 16:32
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Ha! just beat me.
-Chris
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Chris Collyer
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 16:40
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Some carvings are open to interpretation as to whether they are figurative or not, like this -
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/5655/man_stone.html
Paul B seems convinced!
-Chris
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Resonox
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 17:09
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Interesting...wonder if they are pre-cursors of Sheela-na-gigs(everything is assumed to be a man...lol)...looking at them I can imagine them being representations of birth(if the top figure was supposed to be a woman in labour)..then again..they could equally be death(if the top figure was a mound).
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moss
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 17:41
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And of course there is concentric rings found on a stone at Knowlton henge all the way down south...
http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prehistoric/past/past35.html#knowlton
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Chris Collyer
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 17:56
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I've posted another picture of the 'Man Stone' , here is what I wrote about it elsewhere
"The carving itself is quite striking - is it a human figure wearing a hat or wielding a bow, or is the upper part of the carving a second figure being held aloft or jumping over the lower figure? The interpretation might depend upon a faint possible cup mark at the top of the carving. In the picture I've shown this small mark as does Chappell in his illustration on Paul Bennett's website The Northern Antiquarian. If the mark is indeed deliberate then the second human figure theory might seem more likely."
I then added the cop-out clause "What it might mean or symbolise is of course anybody's guess."
-Chris
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thesweetcheat
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Re: Rock art. so what's that all about then. ?
Jul 21, 2010, 18:01
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Chris Collyer wrote: there's supposed to be a couple of axes(?) carved in relief at Boscawen-un but I've never seen pictures of them.
-Chris
Hi Chris,
They're definitely there, but pretty impossible to photograph at the times I've been there. Very faint, but nevertheless two hand-axe shapes.
Alken
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