Kammer
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Re: West Kennett enclosures
Nov 26, 2004, 10:33
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> Has anyone dowsed Silbaby?
How's that going to help?
;-)#
K x
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pixie1948
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Re: West Kennett enclosures
Nov 26, 2004, 11:32
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I'm told dowsers can pick up things, like age, from old sites, not sure if it's true but I would have thought try anything, especially non-invasive things as its at a WHS. I know I've had positive readings on old buried walls and I'm only a learner
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MJB
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Re: West Kennett enclosures
Nov 26, 2004, 11:43
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Yes, lots of archaeologists and antiquarians, and others of course, have trampled around the general vicinity over the years without noticing Silbaby. It may be that they saw it and didn't think it was of interest (ie not prehistoric), but I suspect in most cases it wasn't seen. This is not an isolated case - even very distinctive monuments such as long barrows can still be found lurking unnoticed in the landscape. A major part of the problem with Silbaby is visibility, especially during summer when vegetation (and visitors) are at their greatest - it just isn't very easy to spot. Now it's been spotted, it's difficult to believe no-one had noticed it before, but it really does take someone like Pete to put on a pair of wellies and go looking. An underlying factor may be the watercourse - channels get tidied and straightened, water meadows created etc - it is unusual to discover something of prehistoric date still extant and that close to water, which may also argue against its antiquity.
Silbaby is only partially visible on aerial photographs, and there are limits to how low we can fly. As for what Silbaby is - clearly some landscaping has been going on, but as far as current knowledge goes, it's really anyone's guess. Personally I don't think we should rule out a relatively recent date - right next to it, the river has been artifically channelled and a lake with central island formed, so for example we might be looking at some landscaping associated with the nearby Manor House, perhaps with some enhancement of the view of Silbury as part of it. But I could be completely wrong of course (and I can provide you with any number of examples of me being wrong!). Anyway, other colleagues (including the previously mentioned Dave Field) are taking a closer interest, so I'll wait and see what they (or indeed anyone else) comes up with. But please remember - the EH survey staff are small in number and, tipping aside, Silbaby itself isn't under any real threat - unlike the palisaded enclosures, it isn't being ploughed every year, for example - so other sites tend to take priority at the moment.
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nigelswift
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Re: West Kennett enclosures
Nov 26, 2004, 11:47
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I agree, dowsing's worth a try, as it's non-invasive, and who can say whether it might show something? If Silbaby is anything, it'll be to do with water for sure. (Not too high profile though. There are those that would like to dismiss us I expect).
Not metal detecting though, that would be very very bad, whereas I'm very very good.
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smallblueplanet
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Re: West Kennett enclosures
Nov 26, 2004, 12:03
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Thanks MJB.....very interesting.
Is anyone holding a sweep on what it is then? ;-)
I see Lithop mentioned something called "The Great Bank", any idea what that was?
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Kammer
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Re: West Kennett enclosures
Nov 26, 2004, 12:28
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Sorry. I'm just a bit of a cynic when it comes to these things. It's not that I doubt the value of dowsing, but I'm not certain about using it to find things other than metal or water.
K x
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pixie1948
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Re: West Kennett enclosures
Nov 26, 2004, 12:32
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I wasn't suggesting you should dig if a metal detector got a reading, just see if there was a reading (I'm good too) it's what I want to do in my garden (but thats also a safety thing as there may be ammunition buried, I wouldn't want to get shot by a WWII bullet)
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pixie1948
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Re: West Kennett enclosures
Nov 26, 2004, 12:34
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That's fine by me. I'm a bit of a cynic when large companies say 'Your heritage is safe with us'
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smallblueplanet
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Re: West Kennett enclosures
Nov 26, 2004, 12:43
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I'm a bit of a cynic when someone suggests using a metal detector but not digging anything!!
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Moth
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Re: West Kennett enclosures
Nov 26, 2004, 12:55
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I'm just a bit of a cynic. ;^)
love
Moth
PS And just in case yer around Vybik, don't ask 'which bit'.
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