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IanB 6761 posts |
Feb 07, 2016, 22:54
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Fatalist wrote: IanB wrote: Fatalist wrote: Hawkwind – Space Ritual / Friends & Relations (live tracks). So, the big one. It never ceases to amaze, though any objectivity about SR went out of my window a long time ago. Really, what else even vaguely sounds like this? Many thoughts arose, the most basic of which being along the lines of ‘HW clearly weren’t going for the “let’s rock this municipal arts venue” vibe of, say. Deep Purple. But neither were they aspiring to the proggy uplands of, say, Yes. But there’s clearly a ‘serious’ intent here. What exactly were they up to in the context of 1972?’ I think perhaps they had a collective sense (though probably unspoken) that the hippie ideal was a crock long before anyone else. Even while they were still paying homage to it. I think the music reflects the idea that there is very little peace and no light "out there". They scared the shit out of me at the age of 13. In the way that the best dystopian sci-fi fiction scared the life out of me but did me a lot of good. Nothing Deep Purple sang range true to me, at least not with Gillan at the helm. Jon Anderson's words are a lot of wishful thinking but sounded lovely so I didn't waste much time worrying about their meaning. Did you see them on this tour or around then? One of the things I'm interested in is how HW/SR actually sounded at the time, certainly compared to what else was out there. Bloody scary I imagine (and as you say) - SR seems to be about escaping a dying planet, then realising that the void isn't much better... The only time I saw the in their pomp (though without Lemmy) was opening for Quo in daylight at Cardiff Castle. Not much fear and loathing on that occasion. I was too young for the 74 tour.
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Fatalist 1123 posts |
Feb 07, 2016, 23:01
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IanB wrote: Fatalist wrote: IanB wrote: Fatalist wrote: Hawkwind – Space Ritual / Friends & Relations (live tracks). So, the big one. It never ceases to amaze, though any objectivity about SR went out of my window a long time ago. Really, what else even vaguely sounds like this? Many thoughts arose, the most basic of which being along the lines of ‘HW clearly weren’t going for the “let’s rock this municipal arts venue” vibe of, say. Deep Purple. But neither were they aspiring to the proggy uplands of, say, Yes. But there’s clearly a ‘serious’ intent here. What exactly were they up to in the context of 1972?’ I think perhaps they had a collective sense (though probably unspoken) that the hippie ideal was a crock long before anyone else. Even while they were still paying homage to it. I think the music reflects the idea that there is very little peace and no light "out there". They scared the shit out of me at the age of 13. In the way that the best dystopian sci-fi fiction scared the life out of me but did me a lot of good. Nothing Deep Purple sang range true to me, at least not with Gillan at the helm. Jon Anderson's words are a lot of wishful thinking but sounded lovely so I didn't waste much time worrying about their meaning. Did you see them on this tour or around then? One of the things I'm interested in is how HW/SR actually sounded at the time, certainly compared to what else was out there. Bloody scary I imagine (and as you say) - SR seems to be about escaping a dying planet, then realising that the void isn't much better... The only time I saw the in their pomp (though without Lemmy) was opening for Quo in daylight at Cardiff Castle. Not much fear and loathing on that occasion. I was too young for the 74 tour. Ha! I think I read somewhere that Rick Parfitt is a HW fan? There's certainly some interesting parallels between them and Quo.
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keith a 9573 posts |
Feb 07, 2016, 23:01
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Fatalist wrote: Live: Michael Rother – Under The Bridge, London. The type of venue (attached to the urban development carbuncle of Stamford Bridge) that you want to walk out of as soon as you enter, doubly so when Rusty Egan is ‘DJing’ in your ear while you’re trying to negotiate the bar. Anyway… Mr Rother appears on stage without fanfare, accompanied by the drummer on Neu 75 that’s not Klaus Dinger and the guitarist from Camera. Pretty cool, and they create a decent facsimile of the Sound We’ve Come To Hear (though Rother’s guitar tone is actually pretty horrible for the first couple of numbers). I don’t mean to sound jaded, as I was genuinely lost in the moment a few times during their set (particularly in a hard and fast take on Harmonia’s ‘Veteranissimo’ (I think) and a nicely harsh ‘Negativland’ (very Loop-esque)), but the sense of veneration/ancestor worship at these type of gigs seems to interfere with my engagement and pleasure. I felt similar at last year’s King Crimson gig, though maybe less so. Ah well, it’s probably all in my head… It wasn't like that when I saw him in these parts a couple of years back - well maybe at the preceding Q&A, but not the gig. That was just a room of full of people loving the sounds, jumping up and down at times to sme great music. Unbelievably good!
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thesweetcheat 6218 posts |
Feb 08, 2016, 20:16
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You have mail (hopefully)
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garerama 1115 posts |
Feb 08, 2016, 21:13
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Brian Auger - This Wheel's On Fire Autosavage - S/t David Axelrod - Songs of Innocence Kevin Ayers - Joy of a Toy / Shooting At The Moon David Bowie - Hunky Dory / The Rise & Fall of Ziggy Stardust & The Spiders From Mars / Aladdin Sane / The Buddha of Surburbia / Hours ... / BBC Rainbow Theatre 2000 / All Saints / Toy / Heathen / Blackstar Cocteau Twins - Victorialand / The Moon & The Melodies (with Harold Budd) / Treasure Alice Coltrane - Transcendence / Radha-Krsna Nama Sankirtana/ Translinear Light John Coltrane - First Meditations / Expression / Infinity / Live In Seatle Julian Cope - Odin / An Evening With The Cope Coral - Roots & Echoes / Butterfly World Brian Eno - Ambient 4: On Land Lisa Gerrard & Pieter Bourke - Duality The Hollies - Evolution / Butterfly Love - Four Sail / Out There Wayne Shorter - Juju / Speak No Evil / The Soothsayer / The All Seeing Eye Spacemen 3 - Playing With Fire (2 cd) Julie Tippetts - Sunset Glow Kurt Vile - Smoke Ring For My Halo Jane Weaver - The Silver Globe / The Amber Light Gillian Welch - Time (The Revelator) / Soul Journey / The Harrow & The Harvest Stevie Wonder - Fulfillness' First Finale The Young Gods - TV Sky Neil Young - Tonight's The Night / Zuma / Rust Never Sleeps
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Moon Cat 9577 posts |
Feb 09, 2016, 18:23
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Guy Garvey - Courting the Squall Mammoth Weed Wizard Bastard - Noeth ac Anoeth Chick Corea and Return to Forever - Where Have I Known You Before? Sky - Sky/Sky2 Magnum - The Visitation/Princess Alice & the Broken Arrow Luna Marada - EP Blood Ceremony - The Eldritch Dark David Bowie - Nothing has Changed (comp) David Bowie - Low Blues Pills - st Gong - I See You Gentleman's Pistols - Hustler's Row Tool - 10,000 Days Nightwish - Endless Forms Most Beautiful Have a nice week x
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