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aether
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Edited Jun 10, 2012, 17:13
Re: "Destination Titan" What's This Music?
Jun 10, 2012, 16:53
Cactus Choir? not really Ian. I have it but its really a case of gradually diminshing returns with greenslade - and the pentateuch is just an embarrasment IMO, musically speaking.

was surprised to learn he did the music for Artemis 81, but thats gotta kinda basic electronic radiophonic vibe - akin to Paddy Kingland's stuff

I'd loved to have seen them back in the day, its the first 2 lps I really love. "Melange" off the first Lp is great - love tony reeves' bass things.

Do you know pekka pohjola's early solo stuff - just got lucky and found an original vinyl of his first 1972 lp - some immense bass work in the squire/reeves tradition. long, long, solos that never seem to get boring, and such beautiful tones. interesting listening for bassists like yerself and myself

Aether
np Peter Gabriel's Passion
IanB
IanB
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Re: "Destination Titan" What's This Music?
Jun 10, 2012, 19:01
aether wrote:
Do you know pekka pohjola's early solo stuff - just got lucky and found an original vinyl of his first 1972 lp - some immense bass work in the squire/reeves tradition. long, long, solos that never seem to get boring, and such beautiful tones. interesting listening for bassists like yerself and myself


No! Sounds great. I will look that out. Thanks for that (and for the steer away from sub-standard 'Slade spin-offs!
IanB
IanB
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Edited Jun 10, 2012, 19:08
Re: "Destination Titan" What's This Music?
Jun 10, 2012, 19:04
machineryelf wrote:
The first Greenslade solo LP is IIRC pretty much a continuation of Greenslade the band, the fact that all but one of my Greenslade LPs went in an early vinyl springclean pretty much sums them up, unless you really are a die hard prog freak you are missing nothing, I suspect they probably sold more for the Dean covers than the music inside
The one I kept was the Pentateuch of the Cosmogony again not for the music but for the big shiny book [by now even Greenslade must have cottoned on to the fact that the better/more pictures there were the more he sold] As for the music
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrarJHkveoc
has a certain period charm


Well, yes I think you are right there. Not the only band to get a sales lift from the Dean effect I imagine. They were one of those bands I stuck with despite the feeling that were a bit less than the sum of their parts on record. Though with a better singer they could have been the proverbial contender.
aether
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Edited Jun 10, 2012, 19:14
Re: "Destination Titan" What's This Music?
Jun 10, 2012, 19:13
yeah I meant to mention it the other week to you actually when I got it, cos it made me think of you (being bass heavy!)

The LP is called Pihkasilma Kaarnakorva (1972 - Love records), by Pekka Pohjola - he was bassist on the first few Wigwam LP's - a Finnish prog group led by Englishman, Jim Pembroke. But Pekka split in 72' to make this monster - not sure if its available on CD, but side 2 in particular is full of glorious bass work. Very Canterbury/Zappa at moments with a full on phased Tony Reeves flanged bass tone. Essential!

Aether
Moon Cat
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Re: "Destination Titan" What's This Music?
Jun 11, 2012, 17:16
IanB wrote:
Did anyone else watch this fantastic documentary on BBC4 and catch the music near the end when they were showing the photos of the surface of Titan taken by the probe?




It was a great prog. Total boffin-porn.
IanB
IanB
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Edited Jun 14, 2012, 15:01
Re: "Destination Titan" What's This Music?
Jun 14, 2012, 14:54
aether wrote:
yeah I meant to mention it the other week to you actually when I got it, cos it made me think of you (being bass heavy!)

The LP is called Pihkasilma Kaarnakorva (1972 - Love records), by Pekka Pohjola - he was bassist on the first few Wigwam LP's - a Finnish prog group led by Englishman, Jim Pembroke. But Pekka split in 72' to make this monster - not sure if its available on CD, but side 2 in particular is full of glorious bass work. Very Canterbury/Zappa at moments with a full on phased Tony Reeves flanged bass tone. Essential!

Aether


Thanks very much. Really unusual album that one. Not something I find myself saying very often as I get nearer and nearer the bottom of the early 70s barrel. Just shows there are still some truffles out there in the non Anglo-American world at least. Your recommendation and the new Magma record have pretty much filled my spare listening time so far this week. Oh and I have been really enjoying Spyglass Guest again. A record I never play. Probably because it's NOT in a Dean cover ... I had never registered that Graham Smith plays on it. Great sound that.

I really want a Memotron now.
aether
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Re: "Destination Titan" What's This Music?
Jun 15, 2012, 17:11
Cool. Glad you like it. Yeah, Pohjola's done a few LP's in the seventies/eighties - I only have one more (with Mike and Sally Oldfield on it)- it was released with a Swedish title and as The Mathematicians Air Display on Virgin in the UK around 77.

It was then re-released as The Consequence of Indecisions in 82-ish as a Mike oldfield LP!!! This is the copy you'll see most regularly, funnily enough, and is the one i have. But its not a patch on the 1st LP. I'm told his lP's tend to get rather bland and fusion-ey as they go on, but I haven't heard them all.

But yeah, I love that first LP, esp. the bass tone - which is so Tony Reeves-like. As a bassist, I really like Tony Reeves' work with Colloseum and Greenslade. You heard the live Greenslade CD? - one set from 73 (with Melange on it - yes!!) and one from 75.

Recently been listening to a few bassists that are quite unsung in their own ways I feel:- Tony Reeves, John Greaves of Henry Cow/National Health and Louis Cennamo(Colloseum/Steamhammer/ Armageddon) - all really melodic (in their individual ways), but with a power and real sense of propulsion. Greaves is a very interesting composer also - his LP Kew Rhone (with Lisa Herman and Peter Blegvad) is a strange little listen.

Do you play upright at all Ian? I've took to the upright of late and in the jazz-fusion sphere, there's a guy called Jamil Sulieman who just has an unbelievable fluidity to his playing and a very beefy tone. Check his playing on an LP called "OutertimeInnerspace" by Ahmad Jamal (Impulse, 1971/2)

regards, Aether
aether
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Re: "Destination Titan" What's This Music?
Jun 15, 2012, 17:17
Whats the new magma like? Took me a while to apreciate KA, but I do now.
IanB
IanB
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Edited Jun 16, 2012, 10:48
Re: "Destination Titan" What's This Music?
Jun 15, 2012, 19:16
aether wrote:
Do you play upright at all Ian? I've took to the upright of late and in the jazz-fusion sphere, there's a guy called Jamil Sulieman who just has an unbelievable fluidity to his playing and a very beefy tone. Check his playing on an LP called "OutertimeInnerspace" by Ahmad Jamal (Impulse, 1971/2)

regards, Aether


Yes I have the G/Slade live album. The bass on Melange is up there with Chris Squire's "Fish" on Yessongs and I do like a bit of Ahmad Jamal. I know a bit about those other players but I find 70s prog and fusion bassists a bit intimidating. I am not a good enough musician to play jazz. Or prog for that matter. I can do a sort of dubby, Holger meets King Tubby thing with some Charlie Hadenish moments and that's about me lot.

I have an upright but I am shit on it. I just don't have the hand span but it's fun to play when no one is listening. I have a Rickenbacker fretless with tapewound strings and that is almost the sound I would want off of an upright but what I like about my Fender Jazz is that I can play exactly what I would play on a fretted bass but with the option of adding slides and such and it gives the low end an extra dimension of lo-end width and oof-nicity. Most people don't realise I am even playing a fretless cos of the idiot lines.
IanB
IanB
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Edited Jun 16, 2012, 10:47
Re: "Destination Titan" What's This Music?
Jun 15, 2012, 19:17
aether wrote:
Whats the new magma like? Took me a while to apreciate KA, but I do now.


As I said to Mooncat earlier it's kind of "Songs For Swinging Klingons". If Vander ever wrote for the Swingles it would sound like this. Genius, if a bit short for 20 euros if bang for buck is an issue.
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