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zphage
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Zappa lUMPY gRAVY 4OTH
Oct 23, 2008, 20:50
two different articles on Zappa reissues:


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http://www.vanityfair.com/online/culture/2008/10/21/gail-zappa-on-franks-new-reissue-lumpy-money.html

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October 21, 2008 , 2:00 PM ET

Gary Graff, Detroit
The Zappa Family Trust will kick off a comprehensive campaign to commemorate the 40th anniversary of the late Frank Zappa's albums next month. "Lumpy Money," a three-CD "audio documentary" due out Nov. 25, is the first offering in the series -- and, according to Zappa's widow Gail, the most unique.

"These two records happen to be Frank's masterworks," Zappa tells Billboard.com, "so this is the most ambitious of all the (40th anniversary) projects. The challenge is how to educate the audience to understand what 'Lumpy Gravy' and 'We're Only in It for the Money' are, and what they're part of.

"So in this particular case we have to be more about the process than the outtakes. You're going to be listening to how Frank worked, all the little developments of these pieces as opposed to just an outtake or another performance of that particular piece. You're going to hear how he got there from here."

The "Lumpy Money" package will feature two separate mixes of each album, done by Frank himself. It will include feature the first official release of the instrumental, Igor Stravinsky-influenced orchestral "ballet" version of "Lumpy Gravy" that Zappa recorded in 1967 for Capitol Records but decided to revamp, adding rock musicians and eventually releasing it on MGM/Verve four months after "We're Only in it For the Money" in 1968. Gail Zappa says a "sister" project will be released shortly after "Lumpy Money" that will contain more music from those sessions.

Other releases in the series will be treated "more as individual albums," drawing material from the Sequin Mines vault underneath the Zappa family home. A new version of "Cruising with Ruben and the Jets," Frank Zappa's third 1968 release, is also being prepared, while the Zappa Family Trust is working on other projects such as a vintage live album from the Roxy in Los Angeles and a set of Zappa's renditions of the compositions French composer Edgar Varese.


"With the 40th anniversary projects, it's not as much about 'Can we make a date?' as 'Can we make it? Do we have vault material we can put together for these?'" Gail Zappa explains. "That's something we have to do if these are going to be worth anything to people
Citizensmurf
Citizensmurf
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Re: Zappa lUMPY gRAVY 4OTH
Oct 25, 2008, 00:10
Yes yes and double yes (fist pump in the air).

I hope they put out one for every album (except Francesco Zappa).
zphage
zphage
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Re: Zappa lUMPY gRAVY 4OTH
Oct 25, 2008, 00:13
Yeah I thought u missed this the other day.

Did you get the MOFO set? 2CD 4CD
Glam Descendant
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Re: Zappa lUMPY gRAVY 4OTH
Oct 25, 2008, 01:35
I do wish Gail would release the original version of Beefheart's BAT CHAIN PULLER that has been remastered and ready for release supposedly years ago; it's just sitting in the Zappa vault awaiting her okay.
zphage
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Re: Zappa lUMPY gRAVY 4OTH
Oct 25, 2008, 03:22
Glam Descendant wrote:
I do wish Gail would release the original version of Beefheart's BAT CHAIN PULLER that has been remastered and ready for release supposedly years ago; it's just sitting in the Zappa vault awaiting her okay.


I didn't know she had those masters. How did Zappa get them?
geoffrey_prime
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Re: Zappa lUMPY gRAVY 4OTH
Oct 25, 2008, 03:54
Zappa, after the Bongo Fury collaboration, supported Beefheart rehearsing and recording Bat Chain...this after the difficult couple of albums for Virgin (Bluejeans and Moonbeams and Uncond. Guaranteed). Whether Zappa would have released it or not seems to be unclear...but he certainly was looking for some kind of payback. Beefheart subsequently re-recorded the Bat Chain material and it was released as "Shint Beast" on Warner Bros (although there was apparently a signed contract with Virgin too for this album).
I guess Zappa had plenty of other contractual issues to be dealing with at that time - Herb Cohen, Warners and others.so the Bat Chain masters were consigned to the vault.
Have to say that the Bat Chain album is the one that should have been formally released...somewhat academic, I suppose, given the easy availability of bootlegs.
zphage
zphage
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Re: Zappa lUMPY gRAVY 4OTH
Oct 25, 2008, 05:54
Thanks. So those are the source of the boots.
Citizensmurf
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Edited Oct 25, 2008, 19:13
Re: Zappa lUMPY gRAVY 4OTH
Oct 25, 2008, 18:38
zphage wrote:
Yeah I thought u missed this the other day.

Did you get the MOFO set? 2CD 4CD


I have the 4cd and I'll buy the 2cd one day. The one thing I can be grateful for in the world of Zappa collecting is that they haven't let any of the post-Frank releases go out of print. I bought CPIII years ago straight from Barfko, and didn't get any of the other ones until very recently. I might just pre-order Lumpy Money (especially if I can get my name in the credits again) and grab One Shot, Menage and the Torture DVD at the same time.

I know a lot of Zappa fans complained about having to buy both version of Mofo to get everything, but these are the same people who wouldn't hesitate to buy an album on cd AND vinyl.
Citizensmurf
Citizensmurf
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Re: Zappa lUMPY gRAVY 4OTH
Oct 25, 2008, 19:06
geoffrey_prime wrote:
Zappa, after the Bongo Fury collaboration, supported Beefheart rehearsing and recording Bat Chain...this after the difficult couple of albums for Virgin (Bluejeans and Moonbeams and Uncond. Guaranteed). Whether Zappa would have released it or not seems to be unclear...but he certainly was looking for some kind of payback. Beefheart subsequently re-recorded the Bat Chain material and it was released as "Shint Beast" on Warner Bros (although there was apparently a signed contract with Virgin too for this album).
I guess Zappa had plenty of other contractual issues to be dealing with at that time - Herb Cohen, Warners and others.so the Bat Chain masters were consigned to the vault.
Have to say that the Bat Chain album is the one that should have been formally released...somewhat academic, I suppose, given the easy availability of bootlegs.


To clarify, Zappa sued his former manager for stealing funds from him, and the result of the lawsuit was that he got to keep the masters for the Bat Chain Puller album. Reason behind it was that Cohen has used money that was rightfully Zappa's to finance the album. Right or wrong, it remains in the Zappa vault and has been slated for official release for many years now (I read somewhere that a new master had been compiled sometime in the 90's). Here's what Gail recently implied about any possible release (from the official Zappa forum):

"Just want to add that we here at ZFT/UMRK are interested in FRANK ZAPPA recordings. We do not work for any other Artist."
Glam Descendant
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Re: Zappa lUMPY gRAVY 4OTH
Oct 26, 2008, 23:42
Then why did they remaster the material? Furthermore it is *not* merely academic, those bootlegs are not the remastered material; I bought one of those bootlegs a few years back and it was sub-par, in terms of sound quality (surprise).
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