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Leon Bevan
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Re: Colosseum
Jan 23, 2004, 07:11
Cheers for the info Fitter, sad news about H-Smith

Just obtained Jack Bruce's 'Things We Like' album which features Smith and Hiseman- got it 2nd hand for £6 on 'new edition' CD, but hearing it now - I would pay full whack - very jazzy and influenced by Ornette Coleman but brilliant!
Carlos
Carlos
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Re: PHP
Jan 23, 2004, 11:14
Is it Camembert Electric, Angels Egg and You ?
Squid Tempest
Squid Tempest
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Re: PHP
Jan 23, 2004, 11:25
nope. Radio Gnome, Angels Egg & You.

Camambert was earlier.
Leon Bevan
120 posts

Re: Colosseum
Jan 23, 2004, 13:27
Try....... Berkowitz Lake & Dahmer's "Without Chemicals He Points" - even the ambient bits are 'alien' !!

Has more in line with NWW and some Coil...

http://www.fflintcentral.co.uk/MusicBLD.htm
Lugia
970 posts

Re: PHP
Jan 23, 2004, 17:52
Actually, "Flying Teapot", "Angel's Egg", and "You".

They're a spectacular trilogy of work in which Gong manages to successfully crosswire loads of different musical influences and directions into something that remains pretty much consistent and cohesive for these three albums. And on them, you have the elaborate cosmic saga of Zero the Hero, which is sort of a pagan/transcendent/trippy variant on "Pilgrim's Progress".

During the punk days of the late 70s and early 80s, these Gong releases were some of the only prog I had on hand that still 'rang true', because you could tell that there was some real craft that went into the music, instead of a 'let's crank out the next 10,000 notes and time-sig changes, lads' attitude. Look at it sort of like the difference between some later Miles Davis electric period thing (like "Agharta", etc) and any later Return to Forever joynt (such as "Captain Marvel", a great example of 'look how many notes _I_ can play'-type fusion).

It's also interesting, I note, that when you look at the split-ups between other prog things and Gong, there's some startling differences in quality as to the results. ELP, for example, partly gave us the formula rock-schlock of Asia or the halfhearted Emerson, Lake, and Powell. But Gong's Daevid Allen, a few years after Gong's breakup, fell in with Bill Laswell's crowd in NYC, Steve Hillage went on to do some very interesting solo stuff (especially "Rainbow Dome Musick"), and so forth. True, there was Moerlin's "Gong", which was...eh...nigh'pon fuzak, reallly...but the bulk of the Gong breakup kept giving us interesting stuff. Says volumes about the people who were in it.
Moon Cat
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Re: PHP parts 4 & 5
Jan 23, 2004, 18:31
The much later albums 'Shapeshifter' and 'Zero To Infinity' are parts 4 and 5 of the...er...radio gnome trilogy (Quintology?) in that they carry on the story of Zero and his adventures. Good albums too as it happens!
amazon
amazon
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Re: Acceptable face of prog
Jan 23, 2004, 18:46
Very interesting post, thank you Stevo.
Moon Cat
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Re: Acceptable face of prog
Jan 23, 2004, 19:01
Wha?
Joolio Geordio
Joolio Geordio
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Re: Colosseum
Jan 23, 2004, 19:09
Ah shame I will look out for them next time around.
Yes I caught Caravan at the Stables in Milton Keynes - it was good - an electric spoon solo too I have seen everything now.
;-)
Joolio Geordio
Joolio Geordio
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Re: Camel
Jan 23, 2004, 19:10
Quite like them too but missed the farewell tour - bugger
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