stray
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Re: Fantasy Political Funeral
May 10, 2013, 14:59
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jshell wrote:
On another note and just reflecting: It's funny just how few of Thatchers policies were overturned by Labour afterwards.
In a lot of cases it was impossible to do so, as in reopening mines and relighting forges. Also its kind of difficult to reopen Docks for business again once they've been turned into retail experiences. Anyroad, yep, renationalisation was and still is an option for a lot of things. I mean we've kind of done it with the high street banks ;) Plus we'd save several billion quid that we pay in subsidies to these large Private Companies which would be a bonus.
Seriously though the Unions fucked it up in the 70s and did go too far. It all started to go wrong as far as I'm concerned at the Kodak Strike. No matter how good or right your motives are, you cannot call a strike and picket a workplace when the workers themselves there don't want to strike.
UKIP are in fact a clueless right wing party of clowns who are in thrall to the personality cult of Farage. Farage himself doesn't give a shit how mad his members are, as long as they get him power.
Anyone who thinks we could survive outside of the EU is seriously lacking in their understanding of modern economics. We rely on subsidies and quotas from the EU, in certain industries, just as much as any other EU country does.
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Lawrence
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Re: Fantasy Political Funeral
May 10, 2013, 18:08
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I'm sure I can find one. Let's see...
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB413/
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jshell
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Re: Fantasy Political Funeral
May 10, 2013, 18:33
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CraigR wrote: I don't think you read mine. You see that little winky icon under the text? That's widely accepted as meaning 'I'm joking/pulling your leg/making light'.
Damn, sorry! Bit over sensitive at posting anything in this thread other than 'die Thatcher, die, ....erm, again!!!'
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CraigR
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Re: Fantasy Political Funeral
May 10, 2013, 20:22
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Driving home for the footy last Friday night, there was one of their bellends utterly clueless on offering an alternative on their pledge of a flat 25% tax rate. Comedy. Comedy gold. Twas 5Live. I'll hunt the link but about 21:30 last Friday.
25% flat rate?
My word.
Cock arses the lot!
"But wait, no, we've changed that. Erm, to, erm summit or another, which we have no information on. Yet. Erm. Can I have a cake?"
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geoffrey_prime
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Re: Fantasy Political Funeral
May 11, 2013, 00:22
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Do you need to be so rude?
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geoffrey_prime
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Re: Fantasy Political Funeral
May 11, 2013, 00:28
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Absolutely. It's my choice to "stop".
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Moon Cat
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Re: Fantasy Political Funeral
May 11, 2013, 01:53
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geoffrey_prime wrote: Absolutely. It's my choice to "stop".
I'm not sure it is though. I mean, can you? Really? I think only Frank Sinatra had more 'retirements'.
Plus, that wasn't the point, as I'm sure you know. The choice inferred is how you choose to be with people. And you choose, for whatever reason, to do what you do on here. Maybe you do it elsewhere, who knows?
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Lawrence
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Re: Fantasy Political Funeral
May 11, 2013, 05:02
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Just another case of not keeping your word, eh?
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CraigR
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Re: Fantasy Political Funeral
May 11, 2013, 08:27
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No, but at least I'm honest.
Are you going to go away now?
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jshell
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Re: Fantasy Political Funeral
May 11, 2013, 09:38
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stray wrote: jshell wrote:
On another note and just reflecting: It's funny just how few of Thatchers policies were overturned by Labour afterwards.
In a lot of cases it was impossible to do so, as in reopening mines and relighting forges. Also its kind of difficult to reopen Docks for business again once they've been turned into retail experiences. Anyroad, yep, renationalisation was and still is an option for a lot of things. I mean we've kind of done it with the high street banks ;) Plus we'd save several billion quid that we pay in subsidies to these large Private Companies which would be a bonus.
Seriously though the Unions fucked it up in the 70s and did go too far. It all started to go wrong as far as I'm concerned at the Kodak Strike. No matter how good or right your motives are, you cannot call a strike and picket a workplace when the workers themselves there don't want to strike.
UKIP are in fact a clueless right wing party of clowns who are in thrall to the personality cult of Farage. Farage himself doesn't give a shit how mad his members are, as long as they get him power.
Anyone who thinks we could survive outside of the EU is seriously lacking in their understanding of modern economics. We rely on subsidies and quotas from the EU, in certain industries, just as much as any other EU country does.
Thanks for the balance. My father stood up to a strike call once over something utterly benign and tiny, but almost paid a heavy price for it himself. The management had agreed to do something for the workforce but because they physically cound not do it till the next day then some feckwit still cried 'strike!'
When the mines were being closed our council house had one coal fire. I remember the quality of British coal which burned for ages and gave off tremendous heat. When the mines were being struck or closed, the imported shyte coal just sat and smouldered without heating the house. That coal is still there but it is almost impossible to re-open a flooded mine as shoring up soggy ground is dangerous in the extreme.
I disagree about Europe. I want us out and I want us out now. I currently live in Norway and they laugh at the UK. Norway has more trade with Europe than us but remains outside the EU in terms of stupid laws, financial controls and downright fuckwittery.
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