pooley
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Re: do you smoke cannabis?
Aug 19, 2010, 21:25
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dee wrote: ....sigh...as many of us have mentioned....we 'know' where ours comes from.....sigh.....and it aint sweatshops.....
Sigh .... And I have said many times... Sigh.... Source it ethically. You are... Sigh, that's lovely,
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dee
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Re: do you smoke cannabis?
Aug 19, 2010, 21:27
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Golly that sounds TASTY !!!!
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PMM
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Re: do you smoke cannabis?
Aug 19, 2010, 21:28
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Ethically sourced too. I made it myself from free range organic food from the allottment.
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pooley
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Re: do you smoke cannabis?
Aug 19, 2010, 21:31
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PMM wrote: I suggest he sticks his head in a bucket of poo, and tries to blow bubbles.
I suggest you smoke a spliff and ignore where it comes from. Oh hang on.....
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dee
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Re: do you smoke cannabis?
Aug 19, 2010, 21:32
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:-P
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PMM
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Re: do you smoke cannabis?
Aug 19, 2010, 21:37
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Well, pooley, you're assuming I smoke pot.
It takes me to some very dark places these days, so I don't.
Apart from that, what you're actually doing is stating the bleeding obvious.
So we're hypocrites, and you've found a nice emotive stick with which to beat the fact into us.
Complete with children. I'm surprised you haven't found a link showing that hashish is made by crushing kittens. beneath big spiky wheels.
And for some reason, the people who's noses you're trying to rub into it are taking it rather badly.
Odd that, ain't it. You'd have thought they'd have thanked you for bringint this to their attention, and sworn to be better citizens in future.
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pooley
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Re: do you smoke cannabis?
Aug 19, 2010, 21:42
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Just funny that when it's middle class pursuits ie flying etc, people who indulge are bastards, when it's something like this. It's acceptable. I find that odd. And again. No one else has mentioned the hell these kids are in.
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grufty jim
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Edited Aug 19, 2010, 21:49
Re: do you smoke cannabis?
Aug 19, 2010, 21:47
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pooley wrote: I'll admit my hypocrisy if you admit yours. What I am saying is that there are children being forced into working at cannabis farms. None of you have mentioned them. No one.
Why is that? Is it because you have no intention of changing the way you buy it. Do a gruffly, source it ethically.
But you won't, because your brand of caring seems to stop when it affects you in any way.
I hadn't read that before I got the iPad. It is a luxury item I can do with out. Would I have bought it after reading that. Honestly?. No
Will you still continue to buy cannabis sourced from god knows wherecaftercreading the BBC report? I'm sure you will. And you will continue to delude yourself that because you care it absolves you from responsibility ( see eaves thread)
Say again. There are trafficked children preparing your cannabis. What will you do about it?
My guess? Fuck all
You should really take a step back from this and listen to what you're saying. You're essentially casting a generalised accusation at the users of this forum despite having absolutely no evidence that it's based in fact.
I don't know how many of us here are pot smokers, but I'm pretty certain it's not universal. Perhaps a majority? I don't know, and neither do you.
Of those who have openly admitted to using cannabis, the majority have stated they are aware of the provenance of their weed and vouch for it not being a product of child labour.
It's also worth pointing out this is an international forum and that news item is UK-specific. Which is not to say it doesn't happen elsewhere, but you're casting aspersions far wider than the evidence presented warrants.
On top of that, there is absolutely nothing in the article you linked to that lets us know how widespread this practice is. The police claim that some of the cannabis in the UK is grown by people traffickers and using child labour. Is it 1%, 10%, 99%? If it's a low number (which I suspect it is, but that's merely speculation based on my own knowledge of the cannabis world) then there's every chance that nobody here has actually contributed to the problem you're highlighting.
Yet you are rather shrilly crying "hypocrite" from the iPad which -- as it's been demonstrated -- is hardly the most ethically-sourced of products.
And again, I'm not pointing a finger at you specifically; merely highlighting the fact that profit-driven consumerism is the root problem here, not pot smoking, iPad use or any other specific act of consumption.
I'd also like to reiterate my point about the essential believability of the article. The police, just like the mainstream media, tend not to be the most reliable of sources when it comes to the issue of drug prohibition. I'm not saying that this phenomenon of child-labour doesn't exist in the cannabis trade, merely that whatever level it's happening at is guaranteed to be greatly exaggerated by the police (as anyone whose ever analysed their "estimated street value" statements will know).
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dee
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Re: do you smoke cannabis?
Aug 19, 2010, 21:52
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VERY well said
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pooley
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Re: do you smoke cannabis?
Aug 19, 2010, 22:13
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You should be a politician. Your ability to twist what is said is second to none. ESP the amount of people who ethically source their cannabis. Two people you and one other say they source ethically. Others have not said either way.
You and others will not condemn this, disbelieve the evidence ( something you slag climate change deniers for) because you don't want to believe it
You claim the police and BBC are suspect. The truth is a huge amount of farms have been closed. Something like double the amountbof tis time last year.
All I am asking, is source it ethically. Is that so wrong. . I started this thread to see how this forum would react to something I presumed many used being ethically unsound.
The results were sadly predictable
Some mileage has been made from me using an iPad. Ok, not the most ethical of tools, but the same goes for any pc, Mac etc. How aware are younof the origin of what you write your messages on?
I also said that I would not have bought it had I read the article. You Can believe that, or call me a liar. Up to you, but the fact is I have bought it. Too late.
Not so with cannabis. You can stop buying it unethically right now. Things will change. If there is no market for unethical cannabis, farms will close. That simple
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