Moon Cat
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Re: Stop Nick Griffin
Jun 05, 2009, 15:47
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I like the fact that both the Mirror stuff and the Manchester Evening News haven't said who to vote for - just vote and don't vote for the BNP.
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necropolist
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Re: Stop Nick Griffin
Jun 05, 2009, 17:14
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christ, the English Democrats (aka BNP lite) have taken the mayor of Doncaster!
I almost wish it really was North Yorkshire that had developed that bomb now
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anthonyqkiernan
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Stand up Cambridgeshire!
Jun 05, 2009, 19:47
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Monster Raving Lonny Party beat Labour into fourth
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Lawrence
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Re: Stop Nick Griffin
Jun 05, 2009, 20:03
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Can anyone tell me the results overall in the election? I hope the BNP didn't win any seats, of course...
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anthonyqkiernan
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Re: Stop Nick Griffin
Jun 05, 2009, 20:38
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There's two sets happening: The European one's (won't know until early next week) and the English & Welsh local councils. The BNP have got a couple of councilors in the latter.
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Lawrence
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Re: Stop Nick Griffin
Jun 06, 2009, 05:27
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anthonyqkiernan wrote: There's two sets happening: The European one's (won't know until early next week) and the English & Welsh local councils. The BNP have got a couple of councilors in the latter.
Yecch!
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stray
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Edited Jun 06, 2009, 10:44
Re: Stop Nick Griffin
Jun 06, 2009, 10:36
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Thing is though the BNP, AFAIK, only have single seats in the local councils and really can't accomplish anything. The record they have in the local council seats that they've won in the past have been extremely poor, in fact their record for actually turning up to council meetings at all is pretty laughable (they're up there with George Galloways voting record in the house). This means, so far, that they've never been able to build at all on the little success that they've had. Long may this trend continue. So while it is shitty that they have won anything, they probably will not retain those seats, and the rest of the council will hopefully isolate them successfully.
However, in Europe they'll align themselves to the other far right parties in the parliment, and those guys, as a voting bloc, really have to be watched. Especially with the way the EU voting system works.
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IanB
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Edited Jun 07, 2009, 13:34
Re: Stop Nick Griffin
Jun 06, 2009, 12:05
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stray wrote: So while it is shitty that they have won anything, they probably will not retain those seats, and the rest of the council will hopefully isolate them successfully.
Over the years Private Eye has run a series of stories about their general ineptitude as councillors in various wards. I don't know what their re-election rate is like but I bet it isn't above average.
Even if as many as 1m people vote for the far right in these elections I would see that as a result for the rest of us given the general climate of fear and loathing generated by the tabs (swine flu, penury, sex offenders, asylum seekers, political correctness, teenagers and Islam in no particular order being the main sources of copy for the fear mongerers).
There was something on the radio this am about the English Democrats splitting the race fear/hate vote. I know nothing about them but they seem to be trying to offer a warm beer, cricket and brown cardigan form of libertarianism with just enough xenophobia to contest some of the BNP's ground in middle class and rural areas.
When you read the manifestos this was mainstream rank and file Tory thought 30 years ago and anti semitism was never the preserve of a fringe. Things really have moved on if we now consider those views as being firmly out on the far right.
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Popel Vooje
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Re: Stop Nick Griffin
Jun 06, 2009, 14:13
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Well, I see they've taken Burnley. No surprises there.
http://www.yahoo.com/21/20090606tuk-bnp-wins-first-county-council-seats-6323e80.html
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necropolist
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Re: Stop Nick Griffin
Jun 06, 2009, 18:04
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well, they've taken one seat, in the 'poshest' part of Burnley. It's far and away the whitest area, and includes a lot of villages (like Padiham) which aer fairly well to do. The ward includes the first seat they won in the town council election, which was itself a jolly nice former tory voting area.
They would probably hacve won it last time but I dont think they stood there cos they were concentrating on the euro's.
So it's a bummer, but not a massive step forward for them.
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