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grufty jim
grufty jim
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Edited Sep 24, 2008, 21:25
Re: A stinging, ferocious blast at racist double standards in the US
Sep 24, 2008, 21:24
shanshee_allures wrote:
Yes, jokes. I don't think Moore was 'joking' though.
A whole set of complex standards later...
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Have you read the book? It's very clearly written with tongue in cheek. I mean there's a whole chapter about driving around Belfast in a fire-engine and spraying holy water over everyone so that they ALL get baptised catholic.

And the opening chapter, where he explains the "Stupid White Men" title makes perfect sense to me. He's trying to illustrate that the United States is still a racist society, and I think he succeeds.

I'm not saying every single line of the book is spot-on, but as a humorous take on modern society and the various conflicts within it, it's better than most.
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Edited Sep 25, 2008, 10:45
Re: A stinging, ferocious blast at racist double standards in the US
Sep 25, 2008, 10:33
Yes I've read it. Got it as an Xmas present the year it came out (huh, and I asked for hair straighteners;-))

Anyway, I like Moore. He pissed alot of people off, for his public slovenly approach of nothing else. But he has went off the radar a bit. Well I believe he recently assaulted an attack upon the American healthcare system. Certainly very quiet now though on lots of issues that bugged him before.

My point is (and I don't fancy going into a protracted debate on what does or doesn't constitue racism) if there was a book written by an black man re Mugabe and all the other horribly corrupt African countries and and he called it 'Dumb black men' or even 'Viscious black regimes' (not so catchy) hardly any publisher would want to take it on.

Why?

Because ironically it'd cause a unrest amongst whites (more so) who feel strangely uncomfortable at the wording. Never mind any historical political 'who's to blame in the first place' arguments.

The thing you quoted re 'swimming in a sea of racism' may apply here.

The very fact the wording of the book title can be 'contextualised' here but not there has an intrinsic inverted 'racist' element to it IMO, albeit unintentionally on Moore's part (who I always seen as one of the good guys).

EDIT: and yes, some of it is light hearted, but much of it isn't. The chapters that deal with death row for one.
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grufty jim
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Re: A stinging, ferocious blast at racist double standards in the US
Sep 25, 2008, 12:41
I don't disagree with anything you said there. But it seemed to me (and it's a while since I've read it... same as you, I read it when it first came out) that one of the points Moore was making was precisely that.

P'raps I read too much into it?
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