Popel Vooje
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Re: Here you go Ron
Dec 29, 2004, 18:54
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Indeed. But only on your hands.
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PMM
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Re: phuket island...
Dec 29, 2004, 19:33
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I know :o)
But for all the charity, problems, both natural and man made are still with us. So who's right? The person that gives according to the present need? or the person that suggests that giving to charity perpetuates a system that encourages poverty?
Big disasters cause money to flow from the developed nations to the Ethiopias and Somalias of the world. Yet as far as I can see, nothing really changes. As someone pointed out in a previous thread, aid is often tied to trade deals that in the long term cause far more wealth to flow in the opposite direction.
Domestically, the existence of charities like Shelter, and before them, Barnardos have failed to make much of a dent in the problem of homelessness. Perhaps if such charities didn't exist, society as a whole would find a sensible and sustainable method of stopping these problems from occurring.
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PMM
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Re: Here you go Ron
Dec 29, 2004, 19:35
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Do it for charity then!
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superboss
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Re: Here you go Ron
Dec 30, 2004, 08:29
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come on ron...right to reply????????
TWAT
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Nat
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Re: phuket island...
Dec 30, 2004, 09:07
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"Domestically, the existence of charities like Shelter, and before them, Barnardos have failed to make much of a dent in the problem of homelessness. Perhaps if such charities didn't exist, society as a whole would find a sensible and sustainable method of stopping these problems from occurring."
What would be the sensible method of stopping these problems? Would be wonderful to live in an ideal world where everyone lived in a lovely house, no-one was abused blah blah blah... but unfortunately it's never going to happen!!! According to the Government Charities such as ours 'have' made a dent in the numbers of street homeless, this is because we have moved them off the streets into temporary hostels and accommodation and made the 'hidden homeless', as you said the system isn't working. We need more money from the Government but instead they have cut our grants and forced us to lay off staff and have forced us to 'beg to people for money'.. it's not ideal but it has to happen....
It's your decision not to give to Charity and I certainly respect that, I'm not going to beg you to change your mind at all. Charity does begin at home and if people did look at what they have and how they treat things each other the world would certainly be a better place! Until then I'm afraid people like me will be be working with those less fortunate..... just don't talk to me about those people at Crisis.. mumble mumble mumble... tut.... ;o)
Happy New Year you!!!
xxxx
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Nat
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Re: Here you go Ron
Dec 30, 2004, 09:08
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Bugger off!!! I work full time for a Charity, I'm certainly not spending my time off doing Charity work!! Who do you think I am!!! heh heh heh.... ;op
(Actually if I did do it for Charity would you sponsor me?!!!)
xxx ;op xxx
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whistleforthegoddess
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Re: phuket island...
Dec 30, 2004, 14:19
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Ron
"that'll fix it thought Ron.......... but he was wRong"
- Neil Innes
Love everyone..
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Toni Torino
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Re: Here you go Ron
Dec 30, 2004, 14:56
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I thought Nelly was an elephant ...... errrr, that said goodbye to the circus......
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Lawrence
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Re: Here you go Ron
Dec 30, 2004, 14:58
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No. To Ron. Should've made myself clear there. Sorry...
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PMM
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Postcard
Dec 30, 2004, 15:07
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from Thailand?
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