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Re: Freedom from X vs Y
Sep 22, 2003, 18:19
Yeah I live in the real world too. Pointing out our differences was not an insult, please know that. The point I was making was, I ca only speak as I feel. I cannot build my own house, I have no land, I was born into debt. That's not freedom to me, it's just being born into a 'systm' where people tell you what you can and can't do. Usually people with money. No I'm not in jail but I am oppressed, I just don't see how looking at brutal comunist regimes is going to help me see life differently, that to me is like tolerating mild racism as pragmatic because 'at least they aren't the Third Reich'.
I admitted that I feel like an aberration, and I don't know why I say these things, I just wonder if anyone else out there feels the same I suppose.


As for 'conceptual', I found this passage which resonates with me more strongly than any advocate for capitalism could, I appreciate that people are wired differently, so maybe discourse helps bridge but can never solve.

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From the 1927 Grand Council of American Indians
"The white people, who are trying to make us over into
their image, they want us to be what they call "assimilated," bringing the
Indians into the mainstream and destroying our own way of life and our own
cultural patterns. They believe we should be contented like those whose
concept of happiness is materialistic and greedy, which is very different
from our way. We want freedom from the white man rather than to be
intergrated. We don't want any part of the establishment, we want to be
free to raise our children in our religion, in our ways, to be able to
hunt and fish and live in peace. We don't want power, we don't want to be
congressmen, or bankers....we want to be ourselves. We want to have our
heritage, because we are the owners of this land and because we belong
here. The white man says, there is freedom and justice for all. We have
had "freedom and justice," and that is why we have been almost exterminated.
We shall not forget this."
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