Tree-Hugger
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Re: ever circulating library?
Jan 24, 2003, 11:51
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<In the words of Roy Harper -
"please leave this world as clean as when you came...">
It was a filthy mess when I came into the world. I'd like to think that I could leave in slightly better nick when I leave. YMMV.
T-H
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lobsterboy
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Re: ever circulating library?
Jan 24, 2003, 11:53
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I don't know either of the caches but if they were inapropriatly placed (A definition which I have extended due to discussions here) Then I would post a "this cache should be archived" note on the page. From there it is upto the site admins.
The important thing is I would have to actually see where it was before condeming it - things are not always what they seem.
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FourWinds
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Re: ever circulating library?
Jan 24, 2003, 11:53
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Tree Hugger has a very good point there :-)
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Squid Tempest
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Re: ever circulating library?
Jan 24, 2003, 11:55
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indeed. can't fault that one!
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RiotGibbon
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Re: ever circulating library?
Jan 24, 2003, 11:56
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I think it's the same one George W. Bush is making ...
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shep
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Re: Legality of litter and all that
Jan 24, 2003, 11:58
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I know, it sounds ludicrous, but I actually get a lot of enjoyment out of hunting for geocaches, and I can't come up with any kind of cohernet explantion of why I actually do so. Perhaps there's a deep-set "inner child" curoiusity for finding hidden things that nobody knows about. Perhaps it's the sense of adventure when you go out on a journey and don't quite know what you're going to find until you get there (geocaches aren't all based at historical sites - one day my GPS might blindly take me to work of public art that I didn't know about... or a place of outstanding scenic beauty... I didn't even know that I had such interesting things as iron-age cup-and-ring carvings virtually "on my doorstep" until I got into geocaching - There's quite an epiphenal feeling you get when you discover things like that!!). Perhaps it's a sense of community you get when you share your thoughts and feelings about these places with other visitors, in the cache log books (the log boooks are probably the main thing that interests adults in caching; the other trinkets in the caches are usually there to keep the kids interested!).... and in many ways, it's the journey that's important rather than the destination. But without the destination, there isn't a journey ;-)
well... I'm starting to digress now, and obviously it's all of these things, in various measures. And probably other things that I can't put into words. But yes, I and a few thousand other people get quite a lot of enjoyment from the past-time, no matter how crazy it might seem to outsiders.
I notice that some of my GC colleagues have (rather foolishly) come over here evangelising the idea that everybody will get the same enjoyment from the pursuit. Personally, I think that a bit of a silly expectation - in my experience geocaching is very much something that people "get" or "don't get". I think, at the end of the day, the best I hope for is some degree of understanding... and acceptance that we, generally, keep ourselves to ourselves and don't permanently harm the enviroment that we play in, or go out of our way to offend other groups.
Urm, that's it, really....
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FourWinds
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Re: ever circulating library?
Jan 24, 2003, 12:00
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That is why I asked 'in principle' ... I wouldn't quote you on it.
It happens that I am due to go to both Uisneach and Cappagh round tower within the next two months.
Cappagh round tower seems an odd site to leave something (especially in the base of the tower, which is how it reads) as it is on a small island which is a National Heritage Site. Leaving anything here at all would be a very serious offence anyway. As I have mentioned before most historical sites are owned by the state - they don't necesarily do a good job of looking after them but - they do take interference very seriously. Afterall this is a very tourist industry based economy now.
The location is still a place of pilgrimage for many Catholics, especially the holy well and the standing stone (it's a church adopted one, of which there are surprisingly many in Ireland) and the cache is placed near these too. I am sure the people going there to pray and worship would not be too happy to know that someone has deposited this nearby.
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Squid Tempest
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Re: Legality of litter and all that
Jan 24, 2003, 12:05
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quite nicely put. I guess I can see where you're coming from.
>But without the destination, there isn't a journey ;-) <
...but it's easy enough to choose a destination without having a cache at the end isn't it? perhaps I really just don't understand after all!
Squiddo
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lobsterboy
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Re: ever circulating library?
Jan 24, 2003, 12:06
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Can I suggest that if you find something you don't like you mail the cache owner and explain why you find it objectionable (and/or post a note on the site). That way he/she can understand why you object to the placement.
Education,Education,Eduication and all that.
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RiotGibbon
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Re: ever circulating library?
Jan 24, 2003, 12:10
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I think what's concerning FW, Squid and myself is that we need to even have to spell this out - we don't regard any of the many competing geocache admins as mighty-beings, with supernatural powers and the wisdom of solomon
please visit and encourage others to visit, but stop leaving your crap behind!
RG
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