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tiompan 5758 posts |
Feb 17, 2017, 12:58
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Burl has Bourtie at 5.2 m and describes it as the longest ,which has been oft repeated but Welfare has it at 4.9 m and Old Keig at 5.45m . I'd plump for Welfare , he spent a lot of time on that book to the annoyance of many .The resulting detail and content is unlikely to be surpassed for generations ,if ever.
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Feb 17, 2017, 13:01
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drewbhoy wrote: tiompan wrote: drewbhoy wrote: tiompan wrote: An interesting point about the Old Keig recumbent is that if it was provenanced accurately it might prove to be one of the best cases for long distance hauling in the UK , where glaciation would not be a possible explanation , on the other hand it might prove otherwise , but the analysis could prove it one way or the other . I have often thought that it would be a useful touristy point and shouldn't cost that much to do . Discussion here . http://www.headheritage.co.uk/headtohead/tma/topic/34375/flat/350 Coreens? No, east of the Coreens . It's silimanite gneiss and the nearest source was always suggested as being , from memory , somewhere near Tilliehaslach .(I'll dig out the info ). From T to OK is not the direction of glaciation and also uphill . But there is a possibility of a silimanite gneiss being found closer to OK and higher iirc so much less of a distance and also downhill and maybe even in the direction glaciation .I'll have to dig out the notes for the finer detail . Yup, Tilliehaslach has some quarries, Ramstone also has some. Just south of the Corrie Hill might have been a source, as you would have to come downhill to OK, as well as the other 2. But the source has to be Silimanite and it may not be obvious as a site that had been quarried ,if it was , or glaciated .
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Feb 17, 2017, 14:29
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tiompan wrote: drewbhoy wrote: tiompan wrote: drewbhoy wrote: tiompan wrote: An interesting point about the Old Keig recumbent is that if it was provenanced accurately it might prove to be one of the best cases for long distance hauling in the UK , where glaciation would not be a possible explanation , on the other hand it might prove otherwise , but the analysis could prove it one way or the other . I have often thought that it would be a useful touristy point and shouldn't cost that much to do . Discussion here . http://www.headheritage.co.uk/headtohead/tma/topic/34375/flat/350 Coreens? No, east of the Coreens . It's silimanite gneiss and the nearest source was always suggested as being , from memory , somewhere near Tilliehaslach .(I'll dig out the info ). From T to OK is not the direction of glaciation and also uphill . But there is a possibility of a silimanite gneiss being found closer to OK and higher iirc so much less of a distance and also downhill and maybe even in the direction glaciation .I'll have to dig out the notes for the finer detail . Yup, Tilliehaslach has some quarries, Ramstone also has some. Just south of the Corrie Hill might have been a source, as you would have to come downhill to OK, as well as the other 2. But the source has to be Silimanite and it may not be obvious as a site that had been quarried ,if it was , or glaciated . Can't find notes from years ago but just had a look at large scale BSG maps , hopefully I have got the symbols/colours etc right . Fwiw ;Sillimanite bearing gneiss is found in a relatively small area to the south of Pitfichie Forest , but I can't see any to the north and west of the site . I did mention this years ago to Rob Ixer and asked how much it would cost , it wasn't his area , and he didn't get back on prices etc. I think I'll try again .
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thesweetcheat 6216 posts |
Feb 17, 2017, 16:26
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As well as RSC, there are single recumbents in various places, but often there's uncertainty about whether they are anything other than natural. With no other stones needed, when does a big lying-down stone become a prehistoric monument? Eg http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/13035/cefnyrhenriw_recumbent_stone.html
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Feb 17, 2017, 17:13
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thesweetcheat wrote: As well as RSC, there are single recumbents in various places, but often there's uncertainty about whether they are anything other than natural. With no other stones needed, when does a big lying-down stone become a prehistoric monument? Eg http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/13035/cefnyrhenriw_recumbent_stone.html That's what I thought the thread was about , big recumbent stones in the UK ,and not just RSC / ASCs .
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Evergreen Dazed 1881 posts |
Feb 17, 2017, 17:23
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tiompan wrote: thesweetcheat wrote: As well as RSC, there are single recumbents in various places, but often there's uncertainty about whether they are anything other than natural. With no other stones needed, when does a big lying-down stone become a prehistoric monument? Eg http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/13035/cefnyrhenriw_recumbent_stone.html That's what I thought the thread was about , big recumbent stones in the UK ,and not just RSC / ASCs . If that is the case how about the lintel Stonehenge 156? Bit of a whopper, to use a technical term.
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Feb 17, 2017, 17:36
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Evergreen Dazed wrote: tiompan wrote: thesweetcheat wrote: As well as RSC, there are single recumbents in various places, but often there's uncertainty about whether they are anything other than natural. With no other stones needed, when does a big lying-down stone become a prehistoric monument? Eg http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/13035/cefnyrhenriw_recumbent_stone.html That's what I thought the thread was about , big recumbent stones in the UK ,and not just RSC / ASCs . If that is the case how about the lintel Stonehenge 156? Bit of a whopper, to use a technical term. The Narnian boulders in the Arrochar alps are a fair size , can't think of anything bigger in the grander hills to the north .
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Feb 17, 2017, 17:47
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Evergreen Dazed wrote: If that is the case how about the lintel Stonehenge 156? I demand a new classification. Recently recumbent. In which case it wins.
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Littlestone 5386 posts |
Feb 17, 2017, 18:28
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The four broken pieces of the recumbent Er Grah megalith in Brittany, “...is the largest known single block of stone to have been transported and erected by Neolithic people.” (Wiki). It measures 20.60 metres (67.6 ft), with a weight of 330 tonnes. Being in France, though, that doesn’t count :-)
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Feb 17, 2017, 18:40
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Apart from not being in the Uk . It doesn't, if you are only consider examples that may have been the result of movement due to glaciation ,as Brian does . The upshot is that Johnnie Foreigner managed to do it fine but the Brits just couldn't quite manage it .
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