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spencer
spencer
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Edited Mar 27, 2016, 12:32
Getting TMA securely archived for posterity: EDS/anyone
Mar 27, 2016, 12:31
As a byproduct of the MP app topic, it seems that the British Library has since 2013 been archiving websites nominated to it for posterity in the event of something unforseen happening to them..perhaps most worryingly the constant possibility - more certainty - that a solar flare wipes out data storage hubs. Search online for 'Carrington Event'. A flare of sufficient force narrowly missed us only a few years ago. One day one WILL hit. The Megalithic Portal has already been archived. Surely TMA deserves this too. Make it so. Please. http://www.webarchive.org.uk/ukwa/info/nominate
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Getting TMA securely archived for posterity: EDS/anyone
Mar 27, 2016, 12:38
When they archive, do they simply archive 'pages' as seen (a fecking huge job here I would imagine), or is it deeper, as in a backup of the databases that provide the information? Permission for that would surely have to come from the owner, no?
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Getting TMA securely archived for posterity: EDS/anyone
Mar 27, 2016, 12:41
Aha! From that there wiki :


Methods of collection[edit]
See also: List of Web archiving initiatives

Remote harvesting[edit]
The most common web archiving technique uses web crawlers to automate the process of collecting web pages. Web crawlers typically access web pages in the same manner that users with a browser see the Web, and therefore provide a comparatively simple method of remote harvesting web content. Examples of web crawlers used for web archiving include:

Heritrix
HTTrack
Wget
There exist various free services which may be used to archive web resources "on-demand", using web crawling techniques. These services include the Wayback Machine and WebCite.

Database archiving[edit]
Database archiving refers to methods for archiving the underlying content of database-driven websites. It typically requires the extraction of the database content into a standard schema, often using XML. Once stored in that standard format, the archived content of multiple databases can then be made available using a single access system. This approach is exemplified by the DeepArc and Xinq tools developed by the Bibliothèque nationale de France and the National Library of Australia respectively. DeepArc enables the structure of a relational database to be mapped to an XML schema, and the content exported into an XML document. Xinq then allows that content to be delivered online. Although the original layout and behavior of the website cannot be preserved exactly, Xinq does allow the basic querying and retrieval functionality to be replicated.

Transactional archiving[edit]
Transactional archiving is an event-driven approach, which collects the actual transactions which take place between a web server and a web browser. It is primarily used as a means of preserving evidence of the content which was actually viewed on a particular website, on a given date. This may be particularly important for organizations which need to comply with legal or regulatory requirements for disclosing and retaining information.

A transactional archiving system typically operates by intercepting every HTTP request to, and response from, the web server, filtering each response to eliminate duplicate content, and permanently storing the responses as bitstreams.
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Getting TMA securely archived for posterity: EDS/anyone
Mar 27, 2016, 12:46
I don't think the typical 'remote harvesting' would be enough here. I would imagine the underlying tables would need to be backed up in order to really be able to provide a 'meaningful' archive.
spencer
spencer
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Re: Getting TMA securely archived for posterity: EDS/anyone
Mar 27, 2016, 14:31
Will browse later, but anything'll be better than the bugger all at present. Dunno if its possible to look at TMP via this and see what's gone on or in there. Anyway, nominate, folks!
moss
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Re: Getting TMA securely archived for posterity: EDS/anyone
Mar 27, 2016, 15:22
Done Spencer, I also am totally impressed by your enthusiasm for the sites and also believe in TMA and it's importance.

This is what I wrote in the comment section... The Modern Antiquarian

"An exceptional site with a lot of relevant information about prehistoric sites across Britain. As it has been added to by many people around the country, and is used by an equal number of people to visit sites and it make us more aware of the prehistoric record that needs safeguarding, The Modern Antiquarian provides an invaluable service."

Perhaps I should have said more;)
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Re: Getting TMA securely archived for posterity: EDS/anyone
Mar 27, 2016, 15:26
Brilliant, thanks Moss and Spencer.
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Getting TMA securely archived for posterity: EDS/anyone
Mar 27, 2016, 15:48
thesweetcheat wrote:
Brilliant, thanks Moss and Spencer.


lol.
nigelswift
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A tribute to TMA
Mar 28, 2016, 08:10
Thanks Juamei.

https://heritageaction.wordpress.com/2016/03/28/help-preserve-the-modern-antiquarian-website-forever/
spencer
spencer
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Re: A tribute to TMA
Mar 28, 2016, 10:59
INDEED. Thanks muchly Jamie. Well put. Has to happen.
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