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bawn79 864 posts |
Nov 09, 2012, 14:45
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tiompan wrote: CianMcLiam wrote: I guess you already know the megalithic art at Knowth will be published in its own volume after the report on the excavation of the main mound, which is due in the next year or so. So with Newgrange already being very well documented by Claire O'Kelly that leaves Dowth, though the O'Kellys did publish the carvings in a shorter paper that is much harder to come across. Would be great to see it all together at some point, might be overload in one publication though! Eogan also had a paper in a local journal here on some of the rock art in Co. Meath this year or last which was very helpful for me as it revealed the locations of some pieces that had been moved about. No I didn't know about the forthcoming Knowth book .At last . Why has it taken so long ,any suggestions ? What was the Eogan paper ? Sorry a surfeit of ??? Bloody hell it would be one huge book covering all together. (For some reason it brought to mind the megatron remote controller in PeepShow) Plus research is ongoing in Bru na Boinne. Just saw the laser photographing they did of Knowth in last months Archaeology Ireland. So maybe the reason they havent published is because they aren't finished what with new technologies allowing them to revise previous studies. Cian would probably know a bit more about it than I would.
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Nov 09, 2012, 15:20
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bawn79 wrote: tiompan wrote: CianMcLiam wrote: I guess you already know the megalithic art at Knowth will be published in its own volume after the report on the excavation of the main mound, which is due in the next year or so. So with Newgrange already being very well documented by Claire O'Kelly that leaves Dowth, though the O'Kellys did publish the carvings in a shorter paper that is much harder to come across. Would be great to see it all together at some point, might be overload in one publication though! Eogan also had a paper in a local journal here on some of the rock art in Co. Meath this year or last which was very helpful for me as it revealed the locations of some pieces that had been moved about. No I didn't know about the forthcoming Knowth book .At last . Why has it taken so long ,any suggestions ? What was the Eogan paper ? Sorry a surfeit of ??? Bloody hell it would be one huge book covering all together. (For some reason it brought to mind the megatron remote controller in PeepShow) Plus research is ongoing in Bru na Boinne. Just saw the laser photographing they did of Knowth in last months Archaeology Ireland. So maybe the reason they havent published is because they aren't finished what with new technologies allowing them to revise previous studies. Cian would probably know a bit more about it than I would. Apart from the few new discoveries at Knowth in 1996 and any later ones the corpus has been limited to some pages in the Eogan book (1986) and pics on the web of the kerb or those that we have got ourselves . It seems like a long time without even a good collection of just a fraction of the engravings within the monument .
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tjj 3606 posts |
Edited Nov 10, 2012, 11:03
Nov 10, 2012, 10:36
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Another book worth putting on the Santa list ... "Ancient and Holy Wells of Dublin" by Gary Branigan ISBN: 9781845887537 Publisher: History Press, Ireland The waters of holy wells are associated with the powers of divination or the curing of illness. Many of these wells are located in areas of great natural beauty, often in groves of trees or hollows in the landscape, while others are hidden in darkness, in tunnels, secret chambers and caves. The aim of this book is to celebrate the existence of these ancient places and to better equip the reader with the knowledge to seek these important wonders out for themselves. Covering the wider Dublin region, and including reference points and GPS coordinates for each of the sites, this book will become a stepping stone for the reader into an important and often overlooked part of Irish cultural heritage.
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CianMcLiam 1067 posts |
Nov 10, 2012, 12:32
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tiompan wrote: bawn79 wrote: tiompan wrote: CianMcLiam wrote: I guess you already know the megalithic art at Knowth will be published in its own volume after the report on the excavation of the main mound, which is due in the next year or so. So with Newgrange already being very well documented by Claire O'Kelly that leaves Dowth, though the O'Kellys did publish the carvings in a shorter paper that is much harder to come across. Would be great to see it all together at some point, might be overload in one publication though! Eogan also had a paper in a local journal here on some of the rock art in Co. Meath this year or last which was very helpful for me as it revealed the locations of some pieces that had been moved about. No I didn't know about the forthcoming Knowth book .At last . Why has it taken so long ,any suggestions ? What was the Eogan paper ? Sorry a surfeit of ??? Bloody hell it would be one huge book covering all together. (For some reason it brought to mind the megatron remote controller in PeepShow) Plus research is ongoing in Bru na Boinne. Just saw the laser photographing they did of Knowth in last months Archaeology Ireland. So maybe the reason they havent published is because they aren't finished what with new technologies allowing them to revise previous studies. Cian would probably know a bit more about it than I would. Apart from the few new discoveries at Knowth in 1996 and any later ones the corpus has been limited to some pages in the Eogan book (1986) and pics on the web of the kerb or those that we have got ourselves . It seems like a long time without even a good collection of just a fraction of the engravings within the monument . I suppose with all the work done at Knowth by O'Sullivan, Shee Twohig, Eogan and others after the Newgrange book was published demonstrated that a simplified approach just drawing the carvings as they appear is probably not giving a proper representation of what we are dealing with at Knowth. There are so many layers and contexts (art that has been re-used or just hidden etc.) that it probably makes more sense to present the different stages more clearly that just lumping everything together in one drawing as at Newgrange. I don't know how this will be approached in the final volume but I guess it is something that needs to be addressed carefully, since the art at Newgrange has so often been read as a single phase phenomenon with a single explanation, rather than an evolving tradition or maybe even the results of clashes in traditions. As for presenting all of this in one book or series, I guess that would be an enormous and difficult task if it involves re-assessing all the art at Newgrange and Dowth in a way consistent with how the art at Knowth is to be presented. The resulting work would be probably be hugely expensive to create as well as to purchase, it will be interesting to see how the results of the laser scanning will be used. I will look up a full reference for the Eogan paper on Meath rock art for you too.
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TheStandingStone 218 posts |
Nov 12, 2012, 11:45
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tjj wrote: Another book worth putting on the Santa list ... "Ancient and Holy Wells of Dublin" by Gary Branigan ISBN: 9781845887537 Publisher: History Press, Ireland The waters of holy wells are associated with the powers of divination or the curing of illness. Many of these wells are located in areas of great natural beauty, often in groves of trees or hollows in the landscape, while others are hidden in darkness, in tunnels, secret chambers and caves. The aim of this book is to celebrate the existence of these ancient places and to better equip the reader with the knowledge to seek these important wonders out for themselves. Covering the wider Dublin region, and including reference points and GPS coordinates for each of the sites, this book will become a stepping stone for the reader into an important and often overlooked part of Irish cultural heritage. I know Gary well, he's been doing this for years and is really thorough in his work. Going to the book launch in December...a very worthy project.
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bawn79 864 posts |
Nov 13, 2012, 08:59
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Ya its a very interesting project alright - fare play to him for doing all the research and getting it published.
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tiompan 5758 posts |
Nov 20, 2012, 13:47
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CianMcLiam wrote: I will look up a full reference for the Eogan paper on Meath rock art for you too. Would you ahppen to have a pic of ME015-115 too , please ?
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CianMcLiam 1067 posts |
Nov 21, 2012, 15:02
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tiompan wrote: CianMcLiam wrote: I will look up a full reference for the Eogan paper on Meath rock art for you too. Would you ahppen to have a pic of ME015-115 too , please ? Drop me a mail to cianmcliam at gmail.com so I have your address.
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bawn79 864 posts |
Nov 22, 2012, 12:19
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Hey Lads, Nice to see your pics up - November is a pretty good month for getting out and about. Not too many animals in the fields.
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ryaner 679 posts |
Nov 22, 2012, 12:47
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Had a 3 hour wait in Ballina the other day. Headed east out of there towards Bunnyconeelan. South of that road is very interesting, many raths and old habitation sites. Great place though it lashed rain. Wish I could get out more often. ;-)
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