Emma A
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wrong grid ref?
Apr 02, 2012, 10:27
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Visited a barrow yesterday which doesn't seem to be on here, and I'm wondering if it's actually the Elkstone Barrow which has been given the wrong grid ref. I've added photos - on the OS map it's marked by the side of the road which goes from Colesbourne to the A417 Chelt - Ciren road, at SO 974 116.
Any Gloucestershire people know?
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TMA Ed
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Edited Apr 02, 2012, 12:27
Re: wrong grid ref?
Apr 02, 2012, 12:27
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Thanks Emma. I can only assume Rhiannon was off with her fairies that day as the MAGIC map doesn't seem to show any long barrows near Elkstone, and nothing at the original grid reference. I have renamed the site according to this
http://magic.defra.gov.uk/rsm/31934.pdf
and your photos are now here
http://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/2002
if you want to add any further notes.
Thank you,
TMA Ed.
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thesweetcheat
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Re: wrong grid ref?
Apr 02, 2012, 12:51
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TMA Ed wrote:
I think there might be a long barrow at/near Elkstone, but am at work and can't check. There are some stones in the churchyard I keep meaning to have a look at too (from DP Sullivan's Old Stones of Gloucestershire and the Forest of Dean).
Will have a look when I get home.
tsc
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Rhiannon
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Re: wrong grid ref?
Apr 02, 2012, 14:02
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I have no explanation at all :( sorry.
But Elkstone church looks like it's got some superb carvings
http://www.beyond-the-pale.org.uk/zElkstone.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/84265607@N00/637512450
http://www.flickr.com/photos/erichardyuk/4748932069/
http://www.sheelanagig.org/index.html#http://www.sheelanagig.org/sheelaelkstone.htm
http://www.flickr.com/photos/erichardyuk/4749523534/
I can feel a visit brewing myself.
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moss
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Re: wrong grid ref?
Apr 02, 2012, 14:39
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Rhiannon wrote:
Wow, I had a book on the Herefordshire School which sadly I gave away ;(
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Emma A
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Re: wrong grid ref?
Apr 02, 2012, 19:06
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Thanks for the responses everyone!
Those carvings look great, Rhiannon - I'll definitely have to go to look at them next time I'm passing.
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thesweetcheat
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Re: wrong grid ref?
Apr 02, 2012, 19:42
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thesweetcheat wrote: I think there might be a long barrow at/near Elkstone, but am at work and can't check. There are some stones in the churchyard I keep meaning to have a look at too (from DP Sullivan's Old Stones of Gloucestershire and the Forest of Dean).
Will have a look when I get home.
tsc
Right, well I got the book name wrong (it's Old Stones of the Cotswolds & Forest of Dean), but it does have an entry for the churchyard stones at Elkstone, and the entry includes reference to a possible destroyed long barrow:
The Archaeological Record records the possible existence of a long barrow site north west of High Cross as SO964135. All that remains is an elongated oval scatter of limestone in the cultivated field. A standing stone once stood in the field which may have been a stone from the barrow. This was removed and is believed to be the stone now set by the wall. It was once used as a marker for the Coberley Parish boundary (G.T. Harding, July 1961).
However, "Gloucestershire Barrows, Lists: Long Barrows, Gloucestershire", H O'Neill and L.V. Grinsell 1960 (Transactions of the Bristol and Gloucestershire Archaeological Society) doesn't mention any long barrow at Elkstone.
I've also checked the 19th century 25" maps and there's no long barrow shown in the vicinity of Elkstone. Interestingly the round barrow in Emma's picture wasn't shown as an archaeological feature (marked "tumulus") into the 20th century. It was shown as a clump of trees prior to that!
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Emma A
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Re: wrong grid ref?
Apr 02, 2012, 20:21
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Well researched! It's clearly more than just a clump of trees!
That also explains why I have got High Cross circled on my map (I couldn't remember!):
http://www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=10480
Not sure exactly where it is, but I've probably been past this stone hundreds of times without noticing.
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thesweetcheat
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Re: wrong grid ref?
Apr 02, 2012, 21:13
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Are you local Emma? I thought you were Peaks-based, but obviously not!
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Emma A
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Re: wrong grid ref?
Apr 03, 2012, 09:25
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I'm Cheltenham born and bred, but moved to the Peak 2 years ago. Gloucestershire's still my home really though! Back visiting the folks at the moment.
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