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Re: Lady Gaga on The Brits
Feb 17, 2010, 17:13
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Or good old fashioned 70's burning your bra?
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Moon Cat
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Re: Lady Gaga on The Brits
Feb 17, 2010, 17:17
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Indeed.
And I am simply pointing out that there tends to be an imagined gap betwixt pop as being marketed and therefore 'fake' and other music as somehow being more 'real'. I just think it ALL gets sold at you at some level and it's pointless us the consumers thinking it doesn't*. I bet Bob Dylan's last release, for example would have a big marketing budget like a Gaga album - it's just sold differentlty, in a more 'credible' way because it's supposedly more 'credible' music.
*Except metal, which is eternal and throbs within the hearts of warriors born obviously.
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Moon Cat
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Re: Lady Gaga on The Brits
Feb 17, 2010, 17:24
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Vybik Jon wrote: I I'm just questioning the adulation being poured on her.
Maybe it's not adulation as such? Just fizzy pop thrills? Like fireworks or something.
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Lonesome Cowboy Bill
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Re: Lady Gaga on The Brits
Feb 17, 2010, 17:27
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Moon Cat wrote: Indeed.
And I am simply pointing out that there tends to be an imagined gap betwixt pop as being marketed and therefore 'fake' and other music as somehow being more 'real'. I just think it ALL gets sold at you at some level and it's pointless us the consumers thinking it doesn't*. I bet Bob Dylan's last release, for example would have a big marketing budget like a Gaga album - it's just sold differentlty, in a more 'credible' way because it's supposedly more 'credible' music.
*Except metal, which is eternal and throbs within the hearts of warriors born obviously.
Agreed, well, not the metal bit. My inner metal warrior deserted camp many years ago.
Even the new earnest songwriters being sold as a refreshing departure from todays manufactured pop are still be marketed, it's ironic in a way. Plus they've no doubt been styled a certain way. I don't give a flying hoot what genre something is, if it gets me going either in the brain, groin or feet, or hopefully all three, then it's a winner. I used to be very snobby with regards modern RnB and pop but have since opened my mind and heart to the good stuff so will happily play Gaga's 'Bad Romance' or Beyonces 'Single Ladies' after listening to CAN or Neil Young or something on the 'real' scale.
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mojojojo
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Re: Lady Gaga on The Brits
Feb 17, 2010, 17:35
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Exactly!
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Moon Cat
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Re: Lady Gaga on The Brits
Feb 17, 2010, 17:39
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Lonesome Cowboy Bill wrote: . I used to be very snobby with regards modern RnB and pop but have since opened my mind and heart to the good stuff so will happily play Gaga's 'Bad Romance' or Beyonces 'Single Ladies' after listening to CAN or Neil Young or something on the 'real' scale.
Me too. In fact, as regards modern RnB and other pop, cos there's so much of it about, when you find a tune you like it's got to have a really good 'something' about it - a hook maybe - that elevates itself from the radio morass - a proper gem. Might be a rarity but they do hit the pop spot when it happens, and it's nice to have that out there.
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Popel Vooje
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Edited Feb 17, 2010, 17:42
Re: Lady Gaga on The Brits
Feb 17, 2010, 17:39
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cHARLIE wrote: Popel Vooje wrote: Squid Tempest wrote: At least you've recorded some good songs and your life hasn't been shot to pieces by fame. Be thankful, young man.
Oh, and FWIW, the Brits is a load of big hairy record industry bollocks.
I agree. Haven't ewatched it since that Jarvis / Muichael Jackson episode (the only entertainnig thing that ever happened at the Brit Awards, IMO).
Moreover, I'm going to up the ante by stating my honest opinion on Oasis -they're shite, and they always were. I knew the British Music press was in trouble when journos started hyping "Definitely Maybe" as the future of rock'n'roll. The future? The death knell, more like. The only difference between oasis and the Real people is that the former were lucky enough to be signed by Sony at the right time (when the UK backlash against grunge was beginning to gain momentum).
Although I do see your point dude and agree, the fact remains that they got the deal & the fame & their music *is* out there, like it or not.
Our opinions don't matter. I sit here stuck in this pap job talking Pap about pap ... when I should be at home writing and recording music. Tiz rather annoying to say the least working for the man is draining my life and making me old. tWITch* catch 22 TWiTch ... no NRG to change it. twiTch.
(((sigh)))
Indeed- in the grand scheme of things, individual opinions like oures may not matter, but it's important that there are people who are cynical enough to recognise music industry hype and know where it's coming from. I find it irksome that some acts seem to attain scared cow status on the basis of their fame alone, because such a mindset perpetuates the illusion that the music industry is in any way meritocratic (as musicians, you and I both know that isn't the case).
Re. the day job - perhaps this'll perk you up a little:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oI7c07t0iA
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Vybik Jon
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Re: Lady Gaga on The Brits
Feb 17, 2010, 17:45
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I meant the adulation in this thread.
Anyway, pop-pap-pop. Pop does what it's supposed to do and I don't think that's to make a lasting contribution to art. Lady Gaga - if she's good pop then, she's good pop.
I should keep my nose out.
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mojojojo
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Re: Lady Gaga on The Brits
Feb 17, 2010, 17:46
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No you shouldn't!
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Moon Cat
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Re: Lady Gaga on The Brits
Feb 17, 2010, 17:49
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Vybik Jon wrote:
Anyway, pop-pap-pop.
I should keep my nose out.
No you shouldn't! Look, you've just written Estonia's entry for this years Eurovision song contest for a start!!
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