Lascivia
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Re: Radioactive Records: the enemy?
Jun 07, 2006, 00:31
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Thanks for posting this! The only Radioactive CD I bought was the "Farewell Aldebaran" reissue; the record store owner seemed uncertain whether it was legit or not. In any case, now that I know this I won't buy any more of their output (and given the sound and music quality of "Aldebaran", regret that one already).
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Lascivia
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Re: Radioactive Records: the enemy?
Jun 07, 2006, 00:35
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What albums have been scuppered because of Radioactive?
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achuma
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Re: Radioactive Records: the enemy?
Jun 07, 2006, 03:24
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You'll know if it's the Radioactive version because you can't miss the name on the packaging. They don't try to hide it.
One of the things that pisses me off a lot is when they do boots of stuff that is (or was until very recently) available legitimately, like Silver Apples, Fifty Foot Hose, and Flower Travellin' Band's 'Satori'.
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emperor tom ketchup
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Re: Radioactive Records: the enemy?
Jun 07, 2006, 15:36
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I know a number of guys who've been looking at doing reissues (mainly funk) and for rare stuff a bootleg will probably push you from the black to red assuming you weren't going to lose money anyway. In some cases if you've good marketing muscle and extra tracks you can push it through but for small operations it can be a killer.
I always avoid Radioactive records but sometimes pick them up if they are heavily reduced - and here's my suggested solution: pirate the pirates. I'll happily engage in swapsies of CDRs of these with others if you fancy. Fancy a hooky copy of Farewell Aldebaran, Relatively Clean Rivers, Fresh Maggots or Purple Image? Lemme know what ya wanna swap. At least this way the music continues to get round, nobody's proftiting and CDRs are sufficiently crap that if a real reissue happens you'll probably buy that if you like the music.
Or is this stupid?
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Lascivia
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Re: Radioactive Records: the enemy?
Jun 07, 2006, 19:41
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That's what I do as well. I avoid trading CD-Rs of things that are in print or about to become that way. But bootlegs, pirates, or vinyl or CDs that don't look to become legitimately available anytime soon? No problem.
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Beautiful Day
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Re: Radioactive Records: the enemy?
Jul 02, 2006, 19:07
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they've gone and done it again with a record that is getting a legit reissue from Timothy Renner's Hand/Eye label in a couple of months. Boycott the inferior Radioactive boot and hang on for the real McCoy I say. This was posted in Timothy's Live Journal today
"Radioactive Records UK has just released an illegal pirate needle-drop bootleg CD of an album by the Trees called "The Christ Tree."
As you may or may not know, I have been working directly with the band on an official reissue of this album for YEARS now.
I spent about 1 year tracking down all of the living members and, in many cases, putting them back in contact with each other for the first time in twenty years. After doing this, I asked permission to reissue "The Christ Tree." The band gave me permission and also gave me a huge box of unreleased reels of music.
I spent about another year transferring all of these reels analog-to-digital. Because of the age of the tapes and the fact that they had moved from desert to humid clime and back over the years, I had to have the tapes "baked" before ever playing them. This is a very expensive process, but one that needed to be done to ensure the stability of the tapes. I then had to buy a reel machine.
After transferring all of the music, I spent another 6 months or so editing the best parts down to 4 CDs of music, chosen by the band and I as the best of the best. I then paid Dennis Blackham at Skye Mastering to master these CDs - a considerable investment, but Dennis is one of the best in his field and it was worth it. The Trees and I were both thrilled with the results.
We are set to release "The Christ Tree" at summer's end. It will be the original album, remastered from original tapes, with bonus tracks and 3 CDs of unreleased material! It has taken the entire resources of my record label and most of the money I have ever made selling my own records, playing shows, etc to get our version ready. It was a risk before this bootleg came out, and now we will have an illegal version to compete with. I have felt, since first hearing the album, that I was meant to reissue this. I figured, if it breaks the label, at least we went out doing something I love and 100% believe in.
Dark Holler • Hand/Eye is the ONLY record label that has permission from the Trees to reissue this material.
Then we find, just the other day, Radioactive Records UK has released a bootleg CD.
"The Christ Tree" was originally released by the band, on their own label. No other individual or organization has any claims to the rights on this recording. Radioactive's CD is illegal, immoral, and will not benefit anyone but Radioactive. Their claims that it is "authentic" or "official" are outright lies.
Please DO NOT BUY their records, and especially their version of "The Christ Tree." If you see it pop on on Ebay, please report it as a bootleg. Please inform any retailers/mailorder houses that you see carrying it of the bootleg/illegal status of the Radioactive version, and please tell them that a LEGITIMATE version is just a couple months away. PLEASE help. We must rely on consumers and specialty mailorder houses to do the right thing.
The Hendrix estate just won a huge settlement against Radioactive, and we will join another lawsuit against them if we can, but we will have to get in line as they have ripped off countless other bands and labels.
Please help in any way you can.
Timothy Renner
Dark Holler • Hand/Eye"
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Johnny Boy
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Re: Radioactive Records: the enemy?
Jul 02, 2006, 19:34
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I'll definitely be waiting for the legit issue of The Christ Tree to come out. I've been burnt too many times in the past with awful sound/crap packaging etc from Radioactive - Penrod and Farewll Alderbaran being the worst offenders.
All the stuff I've got on Radioactive will be replaced with originals/legit reissues as and when.
By the way, I've noticed a reissue label called fallout - is this any relation to Radioactive??
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achuma
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Re: Radioactive Records: the enemy?
Jul 03, 2006, 15:52
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It's a great album, too! I heard it last year from a friend and was entranced. Wonderful, trippy experimental and progressive psych folk. Nothing to do with the UK Trees, though. I certainly look forward to the CD reissue!
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Beautiful Day
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Re: Radioactive Records: the enemy?
Jul 03, 2006, 16:32
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yeah me too, the official box set will be worth the wait, you never know a low quality boot may serve to draw some attention to the official release where some people are concerned
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Stevo
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Re: Radioactive Records: the enemy?
Jul 03, 2006, 17:52
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If its the one I'm thinking of its a spin off. Still bootleg but the packaging etc are a lot better or so says Bill of Stand Out records.
Stevo
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