morfe
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Re: Freedom from X vs Y
Sep 22, 2003, 20:37
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I had my haircut like Alex Lifeson (leifson?) in 1983. I shall never ever forgive myself.
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Dog 3000
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Anus Randicus
Sep 22, 2003, 20:37
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Well I will be happy to oblige you with many more surprises then . . .
:-)
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Lawrence
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Re: Freedom from X vs Y
Sep 22, 2003, 20:38
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I hardly even got past the FIRST page of Anthem.
I tend to think Rand is also popular with that so-called 'conservative' elite as well. And also (strangely, I might add) some Satanists.
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Dog 3000
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Ruuuush
Sep 22, 2003, 20:39
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The Rush song "Anthem" is certainly easier to take than the novel version.
I always thought Neil Peart's lyrics were the worst thing to happen to that band . . . until they discovered synths.
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morfe
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Moon Kaat?
Sep 22, 2003, 20:39
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Freedom from YYZ??
(That was the most ironic-geeky Rush related joke I could muster and apply it to this thread)
You may applaud.
Dog 3000:
I was being Extra Ironic and Extra Angry all at once. Our discussion made me angry because it highlighted the ironies. But not at you.
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Dog 3000
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Re: Freedom from X vs Y
Sep 22, 2003, 20:41
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I tend to think any conservative that wants to be taken seriously would never admit to being an Ayn Rand fan . . .
Do you suppose that makes Neil Peart a conservative?
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Lawrence
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Re: Freedom from X vs Y
Sep 22, 2003, 20:42
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Yeah, folks from the other side of Lake Ontario. (Heh-heh!)
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Dog 3000
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Re: Moon Kaat?
Sep 22, 2003, 20:42
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You are a sweet guy, and I laughed at the YYZ joke . . . ooohhhhh, wheeee . ..
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Lawrence
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Re: PS
Sep 22, 2003, 20:44
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I think any state that claims to be 'moral' is deceiving itself.
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morfe
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Re: Progress is the problem!
Sep 22, 2003, 20:47
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Like I been saying, is 'harmony' that is needed. But balance and harmony can swerve so quickly into disfigurement when a smal percent of the world's resources is held in the control of a few Capitalists. Or anyone for that matter. But seeing as 'Capitalism' is 'the natural order' of things and 'evolution', then I would add that we should not abandon our rationalism and trust it to those who stand to make a profit out of compliance/complicity at the cost of our spiritual/mental and physical health. Or that of the planet, even more importantly. Without it we are all dead in space. (Of course, super capitalists are advocating "use the world up in a rush to leave it", this is another 'progress' issue that has been argued about on here, where sci-fi peeps and eco-peeps mix it up together in a freeform blabberthon!
I still can't shake that Capitalism and Christianity are hand in glove, and swore that 'nature' (ridiculous word as that's all there is) must be moulded to their bidding as it was 'in the way' of humankind's true destiny, the Heavens
Now that's what I call pipe dreams.
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