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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Aug 12, 2019, 20:25
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Well yes, although the folk festival people aren't the same as the pagans! If they were convinced they were causing real offence they'd desist I'm sure.
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tjj 3606 posts |
Aug 14, 2019, 22:08
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Thanks for your in depth and (as ever) intelligent reply tsc. I have had a rethink and yes, totally agree with you that the use of the swastika symbol is now repellant however benign it's original origins were. Added to which of course, carving it on a tree - anywhere, is vandalism. I think in my first post I tried to minimise the importance of these people thinking they had been perhaps been watching too much Vikings and become enamoured of the Ragnor Lodbrok Sagas (very entertaining on Amazon Prime) calling upon Odin at ancient sites. Together with my innate mistrust of the Telegraph - had hoped they were just a few over the top pagans. Sadly not. I have been following discussions elsewhere and there seems to be eye witness accounts that these people are indeed neo-nazi racists who are practising their hate creed under cover of paganism. It's highly unlikely I'll ever come across them but it is unsettling knowing they are out there and wondering which group of people they are directing their hatred towards. I can only imagine. We live in frightening times and it would be all too easy, as just one individual, to take refuge in nature walks, music and books. Over to the radical young - they will always have my support.
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Andfurthermoreagain 696 posts |
Aug 19, 2019, 11:41
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tjj wrote: It's highly unlikely I'll ever come across them but it is unsettling knowing they are out there and wondering which group of people they are directing their hatred towards. Unfortunately, from what I've read, one theory is that some 'identitarian' type groups (eg, Generation Identity - this is the group the Christchurch shooter quoted in his 'manifesto') are attempting to 'reclaim' ancient historical sites as symbolic examples of their intended white european 'ethnostate'. Of course, these actions, as others have suggested here, are completely oblivious to or at odds with the multicultural and migrational nature of the neolithic peoples, but hey ho, history and learning* doesn't seem to be one of their stronger points. *There were far-right agitators at a Peterloo event yesterday in Manchester harassing attendees. I mean, what the fuck? Do they realise what that symbolises??? I think we know which side they'd have been on back then, ie the ones on horseback.
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