tjj
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Anthony Gormley: How Art Began
Jan 27, 2019, 16:45
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Hope not inappropriate for this forum. An intelligent, insightful journey into the origins of cave/rock art. First shown on BBC2 yesterday (26 Jan) at 9.00pm. Gormley's journey starts in the caves of southern France and Spain. Finishes in Australia. Inspiring, do watch if you can ...
https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b0c1ngds/antony-gormley-how-art-began
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thelonious
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Re: Anthony Gormley: How Art Began
Jan 27, 2019, 18:50
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Really enjoyed this. Such wonderful places. I thought he was very good in it as well.
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tomatoman
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Re: Anthony Gormley: How Art Began
Jan 27, 2019, 19:28
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Truly inspirational for any sensitive souls trying to interpret our ancient origins. A leap forward in interpretation of rock/wall art.
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jimit
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Re: Anthony Gormley: How Art Began
Jan 28, 2019, 11:59
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I've seen the beautiful cave art at Niaux. Astonishingly vibrant horses, full of life.
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jimit
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Re: Anthony Gormley: How Art Began
Jan 28, 2019, 15:29
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P.S. lots of pictures online,I did post some. Also check out Mas D'Azil.
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carol27
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Re: Anthony Gormley: How Art Began
Jan 28, 2019, 19:05
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Just watched this and moved to write. It's astonishing; these engravings & paintings possibly 28,000 to 14,000 years ago when we were savages! "I don't care for Picasso because he was a predator"made me smile. I don't care about Picasso but I love Van Gogh, don't think he was much appreciated as a man either.
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tjj
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Edited Jan 28, 2019, 20:12
Re: Anthony Gormley: How Art Began
Jan 28, 2019, 20:10
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carol27 wrote: Just watched this and moved to write. It's astonishing; these engravings & paintings possibly 28,000 to 14,000 years ago when we were savages! "I don't care for Picasso because he was a predator"made me smile. I don't care about Picasso but I love Van Gogh, don't think he was much appreciated as a man either.
Hi Carol, good to see you here again. Luckily I did record this programme so will undoubtedly watch it again. It was completely absorbing, I didn't know about the red ochre Neanderthal hand stencils at El Castillo which are thought to be 40,000 yrs old - even as far back as 66,000 years.
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carol27
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Re: Anthony Gormley: How Art Began
Jan 28, 2019, 20:33
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All that time tjj. It's mind boggling. Those people choosing to express themselves & leave their mark. And so it goes on....Hope all well.
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Amil04
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Edited Jan 29, 2019, 10:20
Re: Anthony Gormley: How Art Began
Jan 29, 2019, 09:54
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Missed the programme but will catch up. Cave art is amazing. The portable art too. I went to see the Ice Age Art exhibition at the British museum a few years ago and was stunned by the complexity of some of the pieces. Truly absorbing regarding the possible motives and meanings. And the sheer skill. I’ve become aware however that there is a great deal of discord/back biting/name calling in the cave art research community, mainly regarding the dating of cave art. One of the team involved with the discovery of ‘Neanderthal art’ was involved in the discovery of ’paleolithic art’ in the UK. To my mind, and to some in the profession, this has not been proven beyond doubt. In fact some of the other members of that team had doubts but these weren’t expressed publicity.I wrote to a number of independent researchers about these discoveries and one reply was particularly shocking...’he’s a tumour on our profession’ yikes! Haha..He wasn’t talking about the above mentioned researcher but one of his colleagues. Both of whom have been ‘banned’ from entering several caves with art in France and Spain. It seems to be a very competitive area indeed. There’s money and status at stake. What’s new? It’s like anything else. Should’nt spoil our enjoyment and wonder. In fact, what’s wrong with a little discord/disagreement as long as people are made aware of the fact that this the case. More often than not though people aren’t. Television likes things to be clear cut, and with clear conclusions. ‘It might be’ doesn’t cut it for T.V. sometimes, or books. Come to think of it where’s the hour long ‘Channel 4’ documentary about Britain’s Cave Art? Nah..just gets on the radio from time to time. ? I could go on for hours about all that!! Good day to you.
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tomatoman
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Re: Anthony Gormley: How Art Began
Jan 29, 2019, 18:55
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Backbiting in this field is probably no different to similar tensions throughout archaeological endeavour.
What's undeniable now is that such similar expression was going on all around the planet a long time ago - give or take 10,000 years (!)
That alone blows my mind.
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