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Kid Calamity
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Re: Cluster
Nov 19, 2013, 07:24
Ah! That sounds very interesting. I'll investIgate further. Via Amazon. Thanks, for all these responses folks.
spencer
spencer
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Re: Cluster
Nov 19, 2013, 09:03
Thanks for reminding me about Tracks and Traces.. one of my 'really meant to buy and forgot abouts'. KC, I, and probably others, will echo Stevo's heads up for Harmonia Live 1974, if you want to stray from a rigid K/Cluster path.
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Re: Cluster
Nov 19, 2013, 17:07
My pleasure, it's a terrific collection of tracks (not necessarily an album as such).
Carlos
Carlos
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Re: Cluster
Nov 19, 2013, 18:19
Sowiesoso for sure.
MARTASE
MARTASE
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Edited Nov 20, 2013, 23:24
Re: Cluster
Nov 20, 2013, 23:23
Thanks.. had missed this one. Wonderful! Reminds me of Roedelius's solo lp 'Jardin au Fou'

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqnp9mwAKHQ
Charlie2300
Charlie2300
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Re: Cluster
Nov 23, 2013, 01:16
Sin Agog wrote:
Just like with Tangerine Dream, Popol Vuh and quite a few Kosmischers, their earliest steps are psyche in its unalloyed, raw ore form. This just won't do for most. Cluster, back when they were Kluster, made most Industrial acts look chirpy, with Bible recitations over the most primordial and painful of electronics (the Bible passages were part of a deal they made with some Christian cats to fund the records). The effect works wonders for me. I almost invariably (Vuh's Affenstude excepted) prefer the early uncompromising Kraut to the later cleaner strains. That said, Cluster's Zuckerzeit is my most-played album of theirs. I love how the beats are just slightly out of sync, and all the day-glo melodicism of the whole thing. It's arguably more singular than the earlier cavernous electro-Troglodyte music in its own way. Their first album since they dropped the K and picked up a C is quite intense. Really, even after their heyday, they were always worth listening to- i.e. 2009's Qua. More consistent than your Tang Dreams, for sure. Czech out Harmonia if you haven't, of course, and the rarely talked about Liliental.


A solid summary of Kluster/Cluster. For my money, the essential release is the 6 x LP Kluster release "1969-1972". As pointed out by Sin Agog, this

http://www.discogs.com/Kluster-1969-1972/master/302555

is very early stuff - highly experminental and mostly batso. A more reasonable intro would be "Cluster II", an awesome slab of Deutsch Cosmiche. That's where I would start.

http://www.discogs.com/Cluster-Cluster-II/release/2467880

Tell me more about Liliental - a new name to me.
phallus dei
583 posts

Edited Nov 24, 2013, 12:20
Re: Cluster
Nov 24, 2013, 12:19
For clarification's sake, it should be pointed out that the lineup behind the 6-lp Kluster release on Qbico is NOT Schnitzler, Roedelius, and Moebius, but Schnitzler, Freudigmann, and Seidel. Yes, it is molten-lava-like early Krautrock, but no one from Cluster appears on it! Personally, I wish it had been released under the name of "Eruption", which is what Qbico gave to other releases from the same line-up.
BTW, there is another 8-lp Kluster release from Vinyl-On-Demand. I haven't heard it, but assume it is also from this later "kluster" lineup, without Moebius and Roedelius.
As for Liliental, I believe there is an Unsung review for it, though I seem to remember it wasn't entirely favorable. In contrast, I consider it to be brilliant, though you probably need a high tolerance for quirkiness to get into it. In short, it is much closer to Moebius and Plank than to early Kluster/Cluster.
phallus dei
583 posts

Edited Nov 24, 2013, 12:28
Re: Cluster
Nov 24, 2013, 12:27
It's not their best release, but Curiosum gets my vote for most under-rated album in the Cluster catalogue. It's a very reserved and subtle work, but also totally engaging when you put forth the effort. I consider it to be the last classic Cluster release.
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