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YerArseInParsley 365 posts |
Nov 17, 2002, 13:18
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http://www.tridentploughshares.org/prel/prel02/r021116.html "Last night at around 11:30pm two Trident Ploughshares peace campaigners entered Devonport naval base, made their way to dock 9 undetected, boarded HMS Vanguard and rang the ships bell, much to the surprise of MOD staff and dockyard workers. " I know Elisa! I am so happy. Anyone who lives within a hundred miles of Devonport should be very grateful to Elisa cos TP aren't the only organisation who can get on board a Trident. Even if you are pro-WMD then you must admit her and her pal should get public service awards, and it should be the base commander who is arrested.
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grufty jim 1978 posts |
Nov 17, 2002, 14:14
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> "Even if you're pro WMD..." > on this message board? I don't think you'll find too many of them! I know we have our arguments here, but it's usually just on "the details". Unless there's a chap from Special Branch monitoring our arguments about postmodernism. Actually, as an aside, i thought i was sitting in front of a bloke from SB at Michael Moore on Friday night. He spent the first 15 minutes of the show swearing under his breath; calling Mr. Moore a "f*cking cu*t" and a "stup*d tos*er"; and generally being rather disconcerting. I mean, it's not like he started after Moore had been going for a while and said a bunch of stuff he disagreed with - it was right from the word go. He wasn't pissed, and was with some mates (so he wasn't some lone right-wing nutter). He looked *very* policeman-like, it must be said. Well, after about 15 minutes of that malarky, he started a sustained bout of sarcastic heckling, which Moore handled without too much hassle. Thankfully he didn't return after the interval (an interval during which i had a mystifying altercation with one of the Roundhouse's employees). Which is just as well, because the 15 minutes or so directly after the interval are - without a doubt - the highlight of the show (though the whole thing is excellent - with a couple of missed-targets admittedly - it's that quarter hour that is worth the money... he turns into Bill Hicks at his angriest). Anyways, i am deeply sorry - but i've just realised that i've subverted a worthy thread right at the start (but that's tangents for you). To return to the original point; i too will echo your sentiments regarding the TP folk, YAIP. Nuclear missile submarines are amongst humanity's most vile achievements. Right up there with gas-chambers and the international paedophilia network. I that's not exaggeration for 'effect'. The entire purpose of these things is to remain completely undetectable and unapproachable until the moment they indiscriminatly murder *millions* of people by turning their cities into radioactive firestorms. *That's* their function! *That's* the reason we build these things! Anyone who carries out direct action designed to make it more difficult for them to do that job is a hero. And anyone who works to help those submarines do a better job needs to be locked up. To accept that your job is to run or maintain a machine designed to erase cities is fucking psychopathic!
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MonkeyBoy 1008 posts |
Nov 17, 2002, 18:12
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Excellent behaviour. Should inspire people to do stuff rather than just sitting around. | |||
YerArseInParsley 365 posts |
Nov 18, 2002, 18:15
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I saw a prog about subs that said once a cockroach got on board a sub it was impossible to get rid of. So I proposed breeding thousands of cockroaches and releasing them at naval bases. A bit more sophisticated than that, but it wasn't the practicalities that the peace protestors objected to - it was the fact that it was potentially violent. ( ie a successful cockroach intruder might chew the wrong wire). I am frustrated by saints. I hope someone blows up a Trident, we'll lose millions of people but it might make the news.
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