tjj
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Re: UKIP
Nov 23, 2014, 17:25
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For a while I was tolerant of UKIP only because they opened the debate about immigration which it cannot be denied is causing anxiety to many people.
I now want to say loud and clearly that I no longer defend UKIP on any level. The European Union needs some reform and Freedom of Movement, however idealistic in its conception, is not working for Britain - but the debate must always be about numbers not race. There is an enormous political vacuum in this country at the moment (south of the Scottish border) any way. In my heart I will always be a Socialist - not sure if that's what Labour stands for anymore. There must be an honourable, brave, humane way and there must be a figurehead with a some passion and charisma somewhere out there. How do we have a bloodless revolution ... the time is now.
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/nov/22/nigel-farage-is-a-coward-and-cameron-and-miliband-are-too-gutless
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Captain Starlet
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Re: UKIP
Nov 23, 2014, 19:19
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Sadly when people like farridge (proper British Pronunciation, not that European style which he should be against) talk about immigration he conveniently leaves out migrant figures which go a way to balancing the books a bit. Yes the country's population is growing but certainly not at the ludicrous levels he claims. As for the EU, I think we're better off in it than out of it. I think Britain will always have a problem as the people who've been representing us just want to be in charge and demand action from everyone else that they march to the beat of their drum instead of being flexible and making the union work. cameron's a prime example of this, as is farridge. These people have made Britain the laughing stock of the EU and the proverbial uncle on the dance floor at a wedding!
We need good leadership in this country yes, someone who'll help us work better with the EU, and give people a much less bias opinion of what's going on.
Suffice to say I don't read the BBC News anymore!
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jshell
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Re: UKIP
Nov 27, 2014, 09:03
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Why are we better of 'in' Europe? Why can't we have the trade agreements without the financial penalties (https://www.arrse.co.uk/community/threads/we-owe-the-eu-another-%C2%A334-billion.222708/page-6), stupid laws, ultimate corruption and free passage for the dross (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2262347/Fugitive-Eastern-European-criminal-entered-UK-legally-raped-women-knife-point-attacks.html) of Europe? We've enough of our own criminals ( http://news.sky.com/story/1380880/burglars-admit-savage-attack-on-academic) , enough of our own corruption and enough of our own shit politicians and stupid laws. There are no benefits to us of being in this non-democratic failed, costly corrupt gravy-train-riding experiment (http://cambriandissenters.blogspot.co.uk/2012/08/neil-kinnock-money-money-money-its-rich.html).
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Captain Starlet
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Re: UKIP
Nov 27, 2014, 13:01
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http://www.euromove.org.uk/index.php?id=15296
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Captain Starlet
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Re: UKIP
Nov 27, 2014, 13:07
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Always makes me laugh (cringe) that they expect people to take them seriously!
http://www.pinknews.co.uk/2014/11/26/former-ukip-deputy-leader-gays-sleep-with-up-to-20000-people-in-their-short-miserable-lives/
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2014/11/27/ukip-cathedral-mosque_n_6230458.html
and that's just today and yesterday!
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jshell
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Re: UKIP
Nov 28, 2014, 13:45
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Captain Starlet wrote:
Every cloud has a silver lining, but Norway get the benefits without as much utter corruption!
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