stray
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Re: Homeopathic overdose protest in Boots
Feb 01, 2010, 03:16
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dave clarkson wrote: "
Don't forget that pharmacies will also give people GSK's Seroxat (Paroxetine) if prescribed by the GP - one of the most controversial drugs in recent years and one which has been known to lead to suicides in some instances but also has had countless claims of ineffectiveness. This drug was approved by the FDA in 1992.
Fucking spot on, now that is something that is defintely worth protesting about. As much as the general idea of this homeopathic overdose protest made me giggle like a child when I first head about it, FFS, there are much more worthwhile things to get annoyed about. My concern is for the people who actually believe its worth making such a big deal about, what they say themselves, are useless ineffective medicants. Lives and perspectives need to be acquired I feel.
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pooley
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Re: Homeopathic overdose protest in Boots
Feb 01, 2010, 10:32
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Squid Tempest wrote: pooley wrote: Squid Tempest wrote: handofdave wrote: pooley wrote: And that sense of desperation is exactly what these snake oil peddlers rely on. Giving the sick water.
My dad was ill with cancer (the type you dont get better from) some well meaning idiot said take vitamin c, cress and bannanas!!!
There is evidence that suggests that large doses of vitamin D can prevent or even roll back tumors.
I think western medicine can be a bit snake-oily itself, to be frank... it's compromised by big money. Consumers are led to believe that they have to fork out huge sums to see specialists and purchase pharmaceuticals by the industry, when in many cases (I'm not talking about critical cases, obviously) the patient can heal themselves with some common sense steps... better nutrition, exercise, a better mental attitude, etc.
You've put me in mind of a parallel example - beauty products -
"Makes you look ten years younger -
contains hypnoglycobenzide crystals for softer skin and wrinkle removal"
cue pseudo-scientific animation.
A far greater snake-oily field than alternative medicine, and a much bigger business to boot (or should that be "to Boots"?).
But, as said somewhere else, not in with the medicines. By all means, let people waste their cash on this rubbish if they choose, but don't claim it has any medicinal qualities
No need to be so aggresive about your arguments Pooley, it makes them less convincing, and somewhat dodge-like ;-) You call it "rubbish", but I reckon you wouldn't do that to my friend if she were to tell you her story face-to-face.
Sorry if that came across as aggresive - didn't meant it that way.
I would call it rubbish to anyones face, though - regardless of their "stories"
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Squid Tempest
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Re: Homeopathic overdose protest in Boots
Feb 01, 2010, 10:34
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Fair enough. You won't mind if I refer to your point of view as "rubbish" then? :-P
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The Sea Cat
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Re: Homeopathic overdose protest in Boots
Feb 01, 2010, 10:46
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I'm in complete synch. with your friend Squid. I'm glad she is well, and found the right means for her to get there. :-)
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pooley
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Edited Feb 01, 2010, 10:50
Re: Homeopathic overdose protest in Boots
Feb 01, 2010, 10:50
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Squid Tempest wrote: Fair enough. You won't mind if I refer to your point of view as "rubbish" then? :-P
You go ahead.
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But I do think these placebo sugar pills are rubbish - As for your friend I am glad she is ok, but I dont think the pills are anything to do with it.
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Squid Tempest
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Re: Homeopathic overdose protest in Boots
Feb 01, 2010, 10:52
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pooley wrote: Squid Tempest wrote: Fair enough. You won't mind if I refer to your point of view as "rubbish" then? :-P
You go ahead.
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But I do think these placebo sugar pills are rubbish - As for your friend I am glad she is ok, but I dont think the pills are anything to do with it.
Sorry Pooley, couldn't resist the dig. I know where you're coming from (maaan), and if it wasn't for my friend I'd be in complete agreement with you. Sometimes I think that you have to trust the evidence that your life throws up though, rather than received wisdom...
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pooley
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Re: Homeopathic overdose protest in Boots
Feb 01, 2010, 11:09
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Squid Tempest wrote: pooley wrote: Squid Tempest wrote: Fair enough. You won't mind if I refer to your point of view as "rubbish" then? :-P
You go ahead.
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But I do think these placebo sugar pills are rubbish - As for your friend I am glad she is ok, but I dont think the pills are anything to do with it.
Sorry Pooley, couldn't resist the dig. I know where you're coming from (maaan), and if it wasn't for my friend I'd be in complete agreement with you. Sometimes I think that you have to trust the evidence that your life throws up though, rather than received wisdom...
Yeah, agreed. My wife believes in all this stuff, so some of the stuff we have talked about came up in this - otherwise i'd probably have not even commented
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neighbourofthedrude
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Re: Homeopathic overdose protest in Boots
Feb 01, 2010, 12:30
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I wouldn't step foot into Boots even if you paid me.
Haven't shopped in there since I was 15.
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pooley
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Re: Homeopathic overdose protest in Boots
Feb 01, 2010, 13:05
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neighbourofthedrude wrote: I wouldn't step foot into Boots even if you paid me.
Haven't shopped in there since I was 15.
Caught shoplifting? That ban'll come to an end soon, and you can fill yer boots with sugar pills!!!
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Merrick
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Edited Feb 03, 2010, 12:43
Re: Homeopathic overdose protest in Boots
Feb 03, 2010, 12:41
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dave clarkson wrote: they've never made claims for or against their effectiveness.
I regard selling pills in a pharmacy with labels saying they treat specific medical conditions as making a claim for its effectiveness. Don't you?
dave clarkson wrote: Surely it's your GP who should be responsible for giving the advice you need.
dave clarkson wrote: Pharmacists are not your doctor -they prepare what your GP prescribes.
Supplying GPs' prescriptions is only part of their job. Chemists and pharmacists are trained to do diagnosis and advise for minor ailments.
dave clarkson wrote: Don't forget that pharmacies will also give people GSK's Seroxat
As I Said to Handofdave, disapproving of pharmacists selling ineffectual pills does not imply blanket approval of prescribed medicines or the pharmaceutical industry. There are certainly loads of dangerous prescribed medicines around, lots of fake needs generated by Big Pharma. But that's a completely separate issue.
dave clarkson wrote: where did he use the word 'useless'?
He didn't use the word. Being in a political enquiry and defending his position, he use more florid terms. He said 'I have no evidence before me to suggest that they are efficacious, and we look very much for the evidence to support that'. But he explained that as people want to buy them, he wants to sell them.
That being the case, why not sell statuettes of the Virgin Mary to pray to for healing? Lots of people find them to be very effective. Ditto cola as contraceptive vaginal douche.
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