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handofdave
handofdave
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"Who remembers the Armenians?"
Oct 10, 2007, 03:02
So said Adolph Hitler, as an answer to fears about repercussions to his 'final solution'.

Now Turkey is threatening diplomatic repercussions if the mass killing of Armenians in the post Ottoman Empire years is officially designated a 'genocide'.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071009/ap_on_re_mi_ea/turkey_us_genocide

Incredible that after so long, Turkey is still in denial, especially when you compare their historical myopia with Germany, which has come to grips with the darkest regions of their own national past.

Seems Turkey's on a collision course with the west... there are rumblings that they will cross into Iraq and start attacking the Kurds, now.
Zariadris
Zariadris
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Don't blame the truth...
Oct 13, 2007, 14:01
Thanks handofdave for posting this.

As the British scholar Colin McEvedy says (in the penguin atlas of medieval history, I think): "History has never been fair to the Armenians, and it is too late to start being so now."

I think this pretty much sums up the view of the western establishment. Its ironic, as many of those critical of the House resolution on the Armenian Genocide state that this is a matter for historians, not politicians, to decide. And yet it is the historians themselves who have failed the Armenians, as McEvedy honestly admits. Anyway, the rationale of genocide deniers, be it the realpolitik of a G.W. Bush or the insecure loathing of a Turkish nationalist, is so shot through with hypocrisy and lazy disinformation as to make any sane person sick.

Here's a pretty insightful take on the Turkish culture of denial:

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/world/europe/12genocide.html?ref=europe

The burden of victimhood is second only to the burden of its responsibility.
Zariadris
Zariadris
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The Halfacaust
Oct 14, 2007, 14:06
Check out this brilliant, hilarious spot on the Daily Show:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ra7LMJx41Vg

Enjoy!

"Democracy. When it absolutely, positively, has to get there overnight."
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