FourWinds
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Re: Pah!
Apr 16, 2002, 11:38
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There it is: "omnivore" and that's what we are.
I didn't say it's healthy to be a carnivore did I? To construct a balanced diet with out meat is not that easy, but as my partner quite rightly says, it's probably unnatural to have meat EVERY day (I don't admit this to her though).
Organics must be the way forward, but why rule out organic meat?
When it comes to the question of "Organic Or Not" the long term benefits for planet and individual are obvious.
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Estelle
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Re: diabetes
Apr 16, 2002, 17:00
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Western cats and dogs are being treated for diabetes now, too. Their diet being entirely artificial and processed and preservatived.
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spirit
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Re: long life, organic veg etc
Apr 17, 2002, 10:29
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I nearly put if you ignore the Japanese in my earlier post .. obviously ignored them at my peril & their back to haunt me ..
xx spirit
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joss
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Re: long life, organic veg etc
Apr 17, 2002, 16:52
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related to the japanese is how amazingly fat and flabby they get when they go live in the states
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AgentOrange
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Pah science!
Apr 18, 2002, 11:28
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How do they know that the mesoliths ate mainly meat anyway? Theyd have to be pretty nifty with the old flint spear. Lets face it, it probably was as much nuts and berries and leaves because they are easier to hunt down.
I do actually agree with your wife. I often think the healthiest diet is that practised by many vegetarians who 'weaken' on occasion and eat meat or fish. I hate the way some people see this as a sign of weakness, surely its better to stick by your principles 90% of the time than no at all. I cant face the idea of meat or fish, though have been subjected to them by stupid people and necessity probably once in every 2 of the last 18 years. I like to think it did me good.(?)
But I maintain that if the mesoliths did eat mainly meat, maybe they did have good teeth ( they all died before their teeth rotted?) but terrible guts. Maybe they had good teeth for another reason. They ate chalkpaste? They invented floss. Who knows...
The contradiction here is immense, it may not be obvious, but on the one hand Im flagging up any old bit of research as a 'proof' (like there is such a thing!!!) and on the other Im poo-pooing any research that I dont like the results of. Thats science, and I love it and hate it all at one moment.
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FourWinds
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Re: Pah science!
Apr 18, 2002, 11:54
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The idea that mesolithic communities (in Ireland at least) lived on mainly meat is from findings which are very scant.
Hardly any berries/seeds have been found in association with mesolithic sites, but zillions of bones have. In fact the number of animal bones actually contradicts the 'small population' theories from this period.
It is also known that organised arable farming was not introduced until much later and it is *assumed* therefor that the diet changed considerably at this point in time. Life spans seem to be similar but tooth decay is greatly increased probably through higher carbohydrate intakes.
Of course this is all subjective anyway and I am just as guilty of poo-pooing research from other areas.
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