cancer boy
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Re: Galloway sues!
Apr 23, 2003, 15:01
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What were they supposed to do, pretend they didn't find it? They did devote a large number of column inches to Mr Galloway saying it was bollox as well. Furthermore, Chewbacca is a Wookie from the planet Kashyyk, but Chewbacca lives on
the planet Endor. Now think about it. That does not make sense.
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Joanna
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Re: Galloway sues!
Apr 23, 2003, 15:26
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I don't think they should pretend they didn't find it, I think they are pretending they DID find it.
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necropolist
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Re: Galloway sues!
Apr 23, 2003, 15:30
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the vast bulk of the left are standing up for him. also the SWp have been basically trying to suck his cock to get him to leave labour n set up a new party.
and he really is damned popular in his constituency cos he is apparently a very good local MP.
Shame he's a stalinist get really......
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necropolist
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ooooh! forgot...
Apr 23, 2003, 15:32
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does no one remember the brilliant Mirror scoop ten years back.. Y'know that Scargill had bought a house with money given him by Gadaffi & Libya. This one has something of a similar ring to it, no?
And then there was the Zinoviev letter of course...
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cancer boy
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Re: Galloway sues!
Apr 23, 2003, 15:45
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Could be, but I don't see they would benefit from doing so. None of it's going to stick to the government and surely the Torygraph gets more milage out of having someone in the labour party who's happy to gush over how much he salutes Saddam Hussein's courage, strength and indefatigability than if he gets knocked back to being a member of the public. Also, they're the biggest selling broadsheet already so they probably don't need to resort to making up news to try and boost their circulation. If you were telling me that MI5, MI6, the CIA, the NSA or even the Iraqi government themselves forged it I would take a lot less convincing.
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necropolist
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Re: Galloway sues!
Apr 23, 2003, 16:12
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all of which suggestions sound highly plausible.
could well be 'forged' by an iraqi spy bod who was keen to try and claim a 'big hitter' as a contact to do himself nicely with the regime. could well be forged and placed (in a fairly easy to find location0 by USUK spooks, or the journo himself could be a spook/blatant contact - the torygraph has something of a reputation for being their fave paper after all
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Zastrozzi
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Re: Galloway sues!
Apr 25, 2003, 08:07
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SPI is a way of weaselling around defamation laws-basically the same principle as HIGNFY saying 'allegedly' after everything. So the Telegraph haven't actually said 'Galloway was paid by Saddam', they've said 'These documents say Galloway was paid by Saddam'. Even if the documents are subsequently proved to be forged, the Telegraph can more or less say 'well, they looked real to us', publish a couple of lines on page 17 saying 'no, he didn't' and that's it.
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anthonyqkiernan
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Gallowgate
Apr 25, 2003, 10:37
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Is how we should all now refer to these allegations.
*one for the Glaswegians, there*
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Popel Vooje
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Re: George Galloway
Apr 25, 2003, 12:56
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Personally, I don't think he's any more or less dodgy than most MPs, but to me this definitely has the air of a set-up about it. This is especially likely in the light of the SPI get-out clause, as this leaves the Torygraph in a position where they don't even have to fully substantiate their discovery in order to make mud stick.
I'm don't trust any successful politician as duplicity is a pre-requisite of their job to some degree, but at the same time I'm not convinced. All sounds a bit reminiscent of Derek Hatton to me... and the other smears that have been mentioned here, like the Zinoviev letter.
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MonkeyBoy
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Re: George Galloway
Apr 25, 2003, 21:31
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This is the problem with the left relying on leaders. weither charismatic or flamboyant, they are usually dodgy geezers like Galloway, Scargill & Derrick Hatton. I know the media can demonise people, but if they come across as dodgy then it is easier to fling mud at them to make it stick.
Galloway probs didn't take the money but unfortunately he was always too willing to suck Saddam's cock.
If the left are to get any where then they are going to have to do it through true democracy and organisation from below and not rely on charismatic leaders like Galloway or Sheridan (who the SSP seem to be putting all their hopes on).
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