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spencer
spencer
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Sacred wells on TMA
Mar 20, 2019, 19:52
A site category but seemingly few here put their toes in the water so to speak. I've just added one but not uploaded pix or notes yet. Am being quite catholic as far as entry criteria, just wondering what others ones are.
thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Re: Sacred wells on TMA
Mar 20, 2019, 21:51
I think the usual TMA rules apply to wells i.e. there ought to be a good chance that it's prehistoric in origin. Wells are quite difficult though as the majority of the well houses etc will be post-TMA but that doesn't mean the well is.

Hence why I think the majority on here have ended up with "Disputed antiquity" status.
spencer
spencer
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Re: Sacred wells on TMA
Mar 21, 2019, 00:28
It's a spring and a well...church with origins of great antiquity, 800AD, on a promontory directly above, with very holy name which I believe occurred when pre Christian sites of clout were taken over. My strong hunch is that usage goes waaay back but haven't got any data to prove.
Howburn Digger
Howburn Digger
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Re: Sacred wells on TMA
Mar 22, 2019, 17:00
I have an article detailing over a dozen "Holy/ Sacred" Wells clustered in the hills around a small highland Scottish town. They were all "springs" and flowed year round. The article was was published in a small Scottish Circulation Magazine in the 1970s.

The author visited and photographed all of the sites only one of which was listed on the OS Sheet for the area. Most were overgrown and completely forgotten. Some had stone-lined pools, font-type arrangements or emerged from the rock in a small "waterfall".

He was working from church documents, an 18th Century book and other local sources. It was fascinating. The small highland town has a presence going back directly to the early Scottish/ Pictish Christian Church, Dark Age remains, a significant and lengthy (multi-period) Roman Military presence and a Prehistory reaching back millenia even before that.

The author's summing up was that the "Sacred" or "Holy" aspects of the multitude of wells was that they flowed year round. They had no particular Holy or Sacred connection aside from the fact they had been used for a very long time.

For obvious reasons I wont be directing anyone towards the piece... but is the fact that the spring has always flowed "enough"to make it "sacred". I have no quibble with any listing of such sites. Simply that which makes them "sacred" to one, might make it a "natural spring" to another. Fleeting Church associations aside... I find it a tough pickle to get the "sacred" bit.

But I really like them!
spencer
spencer
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Re: Sacred wells on TMA
Mar 26, 2019, 01:57
My thoughts too...an ever reliable resource, at times invaluable. If natural rock features have a place on TMA these water sites should have too. Points of congregation.
moss
moss
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Re: Sacred wells on TMA
Mar 26, 2019, 08:57
spencer wrote:
My thoughts too...an ever reliable resource, at times invaluable. If natural rock features have a place on TMA these water sites should have too. Points of congregation.


Or points of association, see The Old Wife's Well here..

https://www.themodernantiquarian.com/site/6683/old_wifes_well.html
spencer
spencer
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Re: Sacred wells on TMA
Mar 26, 2019, 10:20
Cheers, might be out Stape way next weekend as happens...I also note the link on the webpage put up by Fitz to an 'excellent holy wells site'. Clicked and horn..I do worry that this website will one day suffer the same fate and all the brilliant content will just be 'pfft'...
goffik
goffik
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Re: Sacred wells on TMA
Apr 01, 2019, 16:40
In my experience...

I used to post a lot of wells way back when and while nobody really minds, you'll probably get a "Disputed antiquity" badge on it if there's no archaeological evidence of it having been used in the correct timeframe. But that's OK, innit? :)

G x
nigelswift
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Re: Sacred wells on TMA
Apr 01, 2019, 16:54
When you first said you were going to make a sacred wells website I was in short trousers.
spencer
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Edited Apr 03, 2019, 22:50
Re: Sacred wells on TMA
Apr 01, 2019, 19:43
Not me give, guv, I don't think. Not sure how long that categories been there
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