Julian Cope presents Head Heritage

Excuse me. No drunken bully. Who's being bullied now? You were talking about cancer? I went to a scan the other day and saw cancers. Actually saw them mutate. Some farmers and plant people out there see cancers in plants and bulbs, which have been there for millenia. I find your tone unfeasably patronising and middle class boring.

I'll fuck off to the music side then. So much for education.

You were ignored . What you had to say had nothing to do with my post .

I was responding to tjj .

If I was to respond to you it would have been obvious .

Read the posts .

What was your point about cancer in relation to the discussion ?

In what way are you being bullied ?

Anyway, off you jolly well go!

And that's not patronising at all is it?
Back on topic, I came across this article in the Saturday i today. If you haven't seen it already, you may find it interesting as I you seem to live and work in London.
https://www.pressreader.com/

Edit: that link doesn't seem to work - the article was about "Middle classes' wood burners turning city air back into pea soup"

I have seen cancers in CT and in MRI scans. I work in a hospital. They have existed for millions of years, both in the animal and plant kingdom. They are getting worse though. In neolithic times cancer existed, but it was rare. People who work with wood and stone also use the term cancer. Even iron, although that is oxidation. It basically means to eat. Cancer cells are quite amazing things. They get a bad rep! Trouble is, we don't know how to deal with them yet.

Sorrry, I'm no expert in stones and would like to be more educated. I have the books and have got muddy!

I'm an expert in people though. It's my job!

Did you read the posts ?

Yeah. I'm not in the mood for a lecture though. Nite.

You've already given us two .

The evidence of trauma from " tombs " is much greater than TOtE .
Here's a selection of finds mainly from "tombs" , everyday disposal of bodies is less likely to be discovered .
At Talheim in SW Germany a mass of human bones were found in a pit dating from 5000BC 16 children and 18 adults , no infants .Over half had violent head traumas consistent with blows from an axe .
Ascott-Under –Wychwood : Robust male in southern chamber with arrowhead in back another adult had an arrowhead beneath ribs .
Wayland’s Smithy :3 leaf shaped arrow heads found among bones in deposit ,one bone had a tip embedded .
Penywyrlod .Tip of arrowhead in rib of young adult in Long Cairn .
Tulloch of Assery B :lozenge shaped arrowhead in lower thoracic vertebrae in main burial deposit .
Tulloch of Assery A :Adolescent male with blow to skull whether pre or post mortem is not known . Cranborne chase .Pitt Rivers found a male skeleton with with a leaf shaped arrowhead below the ribs and at it’s feet the skeleton of a child .
Fengate :Iron Age site near Peterborough a burial with an adult male with LSA between 8th and 9th ribs and woman and two children were buried with him .
Poulnabrone :Stone projectile point in adult hip also interred two other individuals with healed skull fracture wounds .
West Kennet :LSA was found in the region of a man’s throat .
Crichel Down :barrow 13 An LSA next to the ribs of skeleton on a bed of flints .
Harborough Rocks :Chambered cairn with arrowheads with snapped tips and 16 skeletons .
Five Wells cairn : Arrowhead with snapped tip and 12 skeletons .
Belas Knap : Adolescent with massive injury to skull , a female may also been from a blow to the skull .
Coldrum :A probable adult female with injury to the front of the skull , two fine cut marks by the ear hole as there are no other cut marks on the skull it is possible the ear had been cut off .
Dinnington; Long barrow Yorkshire female skull with possible axe blow
Boles Barrow :Several skulls displayed lethal injuries .
Duggleby Howe :the skull of a young male at the feet of an old man skull has large hole .
Windmill Hill : Burl believed the skulls in the ditches could have been trophies .
Bridlington :The partially cremated remains of a skull with atlas vertebrae attached also in the pit was a Neolithic axe .
Boles Barrow :A skull with attached neck vertebrae cut in two
Chute 1 oval barrow :group of skulls arranged in a circle one with three vertebrae attached .
Staines Causewayed Enclosure :two skulls in outer ditch one had healed wounds was killed later by blows to the head and decapitated .
Glen Quicken :Cist under a cairn contained a skeleton whose arm had almost been severed by a greenstone axe , a fragment of which was still stuck in the bone .
Amesbury 35-45 year old male buried between 2400-2200BC grave goods include flint tools wrist guards 15 BTA 5 beakers , three copper daggers , four boar tusks , a bone pin ,two gold basket earrings or hair tresses and a cushion stone ,which was almost certainly used for making metal objects ,as a child he had lived near the Alps .A burial5m away contained the skeleton of a man 20-25 who also had the gold earrings/tresses but also an unusual bone in his instep same as the Amesbury archer so it’s likely they were related ..Roger mercer believes the archery equipment signifies a hunting ritual carried out by an elite within Beaker society .The young Auroch burials on Boscombe Down may have been part of this ritual and a pit with 6 BTA in an Auroch’s ribs at Heathrow terminal 4
.Just as farming was becoming ever more important there is a rise in finds of archery equipment .It’s suggested this is due to the existence of a high status male hunter elite .
Fordington barrow :Dorset had skeleton dated 2350 bc with a probable parry fracture to his forearm and BTA on his hip
Chilbolton :Hampshire Younger of two men (20-30 ) was buried in a mortuary chamber with a rich array of grave goods including gold hair tresses/earrings had parry fracture and older man had fractures to his rib cage .
Barnak :Had 22 burials clustered around the primary burial Beaker burial , three of the satellite burials contained individuals with skeletal trauma .
Pyecombe :barrow Sussex a male with healed fractures to collar bone and forearm ,and woman displaying axe wound to their skull
Sarn –Y-Bryn –Caled :In centre of the timber circle two cremations with 4 BTA two of which were missing their tips they had also turned intense white in the pyre heat .The date 2400-2300bc Suggests the individual lost their life in the beaker period but this does not tally with the arrowheads which were of the Conygar type.
Grandtully Possible EBA burial in cremation cemetery .5 Conygar arrowheads were found with the cremation of a young adult in a pit .
Twr Gwyn Mawr :two BTA were found in a cremation burial under cairn A
Ballymacaldrack :probable female cremation with EBA collared Urn with rough BTA with broken tip .
Tormarton : SW Cotswolds . Three young males , the eldest had been stabbed in the back at lest once with a spear , the younger man had been speared in the pelvis with the bronze tip still in the bone another spearhead had done the same this time in his spine the date was 1315 -1045 BC there was also a hole in the head probably from a spear .A follow up excavation found even more bone under slabs .
Queenford farm near Dorchester on Thames a human skeleton with a snapped spear in the pelvis 1260-990 BC .
Drumman Moor Lake in Co Armagh socketed dagger of LBA embedded in a skull.

A male skull 1040-810 BC found in association with a burnt mound near River Soar Leics along with a decapitated horse skull and butchered bones of cattle and aurochs the dated skull had unhealed cut marks on the atlas vertebrae which may indicate that he had been killed by being beheaded .