tjj
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Edited Oct 12, 2015, 23:33
Mark Horton investigates nighthawking
Oct 12, 2015, 14:01
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Just caught a small news item on BBC Points West about Nighthawking. A longer item to be shown on "Inside Out West" this evening 12/10/15. Now available on iplayer.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b06h881h/inside-out-west-12102015
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thesweetcheat
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Re: Mark Horton investigates nighthawking
Oct 13, 2015, 07:04
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Thanks for posting this, will watch this evening.
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nigelswift
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Nighthawks aren't the main problem
Oct 13, 2015, 07:27
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Nighthawks make sexy telly but they aren't the real problem.
It took a farmer to point out that truth ....
https://heritageaction.wordpress.com/2015/10/13/farmer-graham-tells-archaeologist-mark-horton-most-metal-detecting-is-raping-the-ground/
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Sanctuary
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Re: Nighthawks aren't the main problem
Oct 13, 2015, 09:57
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nigelswift wrote:
Nighthawks are a pain in the rear of course, but we mustn't forget the good guys who there will be plenty of. Would this outstanding haul have ever been discovered without them?
https://theheritagetrust.wordpress.com/2015/09/29/the-jersey-hoard-update/
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goffik
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Re: Nighthawks aren't the main problem
Oct 13, 2015, 12:17
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Great article. :) Nice footage, too... Good on the farmer.
G x
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postman
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Re: Nighthawks aren't the main problem
Oct 13, 2015, 17:39
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Nighthawks ?
Men on fast motorbikes ?
Owls ?
A group of attractive American spies ?
or people who sneak onto archaeological sites and nick things?
Thats all ive got
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nigelswift
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It's all hogwash
Oct 17, 2015, 09:37
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https://heritageaction.wordpress.com/2015/10/17/nighthawking-and-knowledge-theft-putting-both-in-perspective/
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Sanctuary
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Re: It's all hogwash
Oct 17, 2015, 12:10
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nigelswift wrote:
'The Counter may or may not be a precise reflection of the rate of depletion (and in our view it is almost certainly a very considerable under-estimate) but the broad picture it paints - of millions of artefacts being needlessly taken and society being wantonly deprived of most of the associated knowledge of its past - appears to be perfectly accurate and is at odds with the current "official" account'.
Two things Nigel...and meant in a none argumentative manner:-
The 'may or may not' is not good enough, it IS a precise rate of depletion that is required but of course it never will be.
Secondly and in regard to 'artefacts being needlessly taken and society being wantonly deprived of most of the associated knowledge of its past'.
100% accurate of course, but how much of this unknown knowledge would have been gained if not discovered by detectorists in the first instance? A great many 'finds' are discovered in areas totally ignored by archaeologists because the history they do know has ruled those area out.
Yes we are losing a great deal, but at the same time gaining a lot from the good guys that are reporting their finds, so somehow a balance must be found on all sides because it is very unlikely to stop, illegal or not. At the end of the day we have to be realistic I feel.
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Howburn Digger
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Re: Mark Horton investigates nighthawking
Oct 21, 2015, 08:30
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The Magnet. Lovely.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-30551671
This guy hit jackpot twice in two years.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-south-scotland-29582866
I dont have the Youtube link handy for this guy's "excavation" but it is very funny!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-29399437
No nighthawking here at all. Lovely.
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nigelswift
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Edited Oct 21, 2015, 08:50
Re: Mark Horton investigates nighthawking
Oct 21, 2015, 08:47
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Howburn Digger wrote:
Yes. Good bloke. Stopped digging. Slept in his car for 3 nights to guard it until the archaeologists arrived! But then, so he bloody should have, especially as he's going to get a massive ex gratia reward.
And how many other do that rather than crudely dig it all out straight away? Very very few. Here's a solution we proposed years ago ....
https://heritageaction.wordpress.com/2014/11/02/is-it-time-to-pay-metal-detectorists-to-behave/
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