Dave1982
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Re: Stonehenge - dating the Y and Z holes
Dec 16, 2014, 19:54
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'Thom described them as being more like a spiral than a circle'
7) Z&Y holes, a circle, spiral, or an arc ?
Attempts to impose a circle as in the Wikipedia diagram -
( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Y_and_Z_Holes )
are not able to follow the holes as accurately as the arcs are. The Y and Z holes are not a circle or a spiral, they are two arcs. (as defined by maths geometric shapes) The Eastern arc is just too regular to be an accidentally irregularity.
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tiompan
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Re: Stonehenge - dating the Y and Z holes
Dec 16, 2014, 20:10
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Dave1982 wrote: 'a) But as Field and Pearson point out the siting of some of the pits in the NE on the Cleal plan are out because Hawley got the co-ordinates wrong .'
With reference to 'Stonehenge Amesbury Survey Report' - Field and Pearson, I was not able to find any reference to Hawley's lack of decent co-ordinates. So at present I cannot reply Did not Field and Pearson produce an update diagram?
Dave1982
Hawley probably didn’t have a surveyor on site , according to Field and Pearson .
They are the only ones that I can think of who mention it .
No diagram of the Y and Zs in the report .
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tiompan
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Re: Stonehenge - dating the Y and Z holes
Dec 16, 2014, 20:10
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At the NE the Y and Z simply mirror the sarsens .
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Dave1982
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Re: Stonehenge - dating the Y and Z holes
Dec 16, 2014, 21:06
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What is the 'stratigraphic' evidence ?
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Dave1982
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Re: Stonehenge - dating the Y and Z holes
Dec 16, 2014, 21:12
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tiompan wrote: At the NE the Y and Z simply mirror the sarsens .
Ahhh, but which is the original, and which is the reflection ? : )
As I sense you're getting a bit short I'm off to my health supper. Best wishes -
Dave1982
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tiompan
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Re: Stonehenge - dating the Y and Z holes
Dec 16, 2014, 22:03
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Dave1982 wrote: tiompan wrote: At the NE the Y and Z simply mirror the sarsens .
Ahhh, but which is the original, and which is the reflection ? : )
As I sense you're getting a bit short I'm off to my health supper. Best wishes -
Dave1982
The Sarsens are primary as all the evidence points to them being so .
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tiompan
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Re: Stonehenge - dating the Y and Z holes
Dec 16, 2014, 22:04
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Dave1982 wrote: What is the 'stratigraphic' evidence ?
The Z holes cut into the ramps .
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Dave1982
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Re: Stonehenge - dating the Y and Z holes
Dec 18, 2014, 18:08
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Are you suggesting fraud ? Surely not.
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tiompan
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Re: Stonehenge - dating the Y and Z holes
Dec 18, 2014, 18:16
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No , simple human behaviour .
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Dave1982
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Re: Stonehenge - dating the Y and Z holes
Dec 18, 2014, 18:16
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Colonel Hawley was an officer in the Royal Engineers so would be more than capable of surveying work, and Robert Newall, his assistant, was a draughtsman from the Office of Works. So the required skills were there although whether or not they were applied conscientiously is another matter.
I don't know if the last paragraph of the following is of interest to you ?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Hawley
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