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Sanctuary
Sanctuary
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Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 21, 2013, 12:34
tiompan wrote:


It would be very difficult to prove that they had been brought to the area from Wales or Somerset , then used in other monuments e.g.BHS ,as favoured by MPP etc (no evidence that bluestones were ever in the BHS sockets ) ,or just left lying around until later use .


Talking of MPP...this is rather dismissive of him isn't it!

http://robertjohnlangdon.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/stonehenge-mike-parker-pearson.html
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 21, 2013, 12:39
tiompan wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:

BHS ,as favoured by MPP etc (no evidence that bluestones were ever in the BHS sockets )


Thats interesting, i'm sure I read that bluestone chips were found in the holes? Were they BS chips that haven't been matched to the ones at SH, or were the chips different stone entirely?

Does the size of the stone holes suggest the bluestones could have been placed there?



There was a lot of BS about BHS in the early days , at one time it was even considered to be a four poster .There were suggestions of finds of bluestone in the pits initially but MPP eventually confirmed there were none .
The argument is that the size of the sockets are closer to stone holes than timber holes ,and they don't have the right shape for slab shaped sarsens reasonable enough but the same argument has been used about the Aubrey Holes and that has been debated . The BHS holes also had ramps alledgedly providing evidence for both insertion and removal .



"There was a lot of BS about BHS in the early days" lol.

Just to confirm we're talking about BSH and not BHS? Its all those christmas shopping ads on the tv..

Interesting. Bizarre how it was suggested that bluestone chips were found, but actually none were. I wonder if that means the chips were something else or that there was no stone at all?
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 21, 2013, 12:46
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:

BHS ,as favoured by MPP etc (no evidence that bluestones were ever in the BHS sockets )


Thats interesting, i'm sure I read that bluestone chips were found in the holes? Were they BS chips that haven't been matched to the ones at SH, or were the chips different stone entirely?

Does the size of the stone holes suggest the bluestones could have been placed there?



There was a lot of BS about BHS in the early days , at one time it was even considered to be a four poster .There were suggestions of finds of bluestone in the pits initially but MPP eventually confirmed there were none .
The argument is that the size of the sockets are closer to stone holes than timber holes ,and they don't have the right shape for slab shaped sarsens reasonable enough but the same argument has been used about the Aubrey Holes and that has been debated . The BHS holes also had ramps alledgedly providing evidence for both insertion and removal .



"There was a lot of BS about BHS in the early days" lol.

Just to confirm we're talking about BSH and not BHS? Its all those christmas shopping ads on the tv..

Interesting. Bizarre how it was suggested that bluestone chips were found, but actually none were. I wonder if that means the chips were something else or that there was no stone at all?




Mibbe greater likelihood of bluestones being found in BHS ?
oooops ,yes BSH .
Yes ,I'm sure there were claims of bluestone finds at BSH in the early days ,there was an antler used to date the "dismantling " and at that time they also mentioned iirc two fragments , I'll see if I can dig out the ref .
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 21, 2013, 12:47
Sanctuary wrote:

Talking of MPP...this is rather dismissive of him isn't it!

http://robertjohnlangdon.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/stonehenge-mike-parker-pearson.html


Reads like a paranoid, self congratulatory rant.
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 21, 2013, 12:48
Sanctuary wrote:
tiompan wrote:


It would be very difficult to prove that they had been brought to the area from Wales or Somerset , then used in other monuments e.g.BHS ,as favoured by MPP etc (no evidence that bluestones were ever in the BHS sockets ) ,or just left lying around until later use .


Talking of MPP...this is rather dismissive of him isn't it!

http://robertjohnlangdon.blogspot.co.uk/2012/07/stonehenge-mike-parker-pearson.html


Yes , but because of who wrote it , it can only be seen as being positive .
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 21, 2013, 12:51
tiompan wrote:

Mibbe greater likelihood of bluestones being found in BHS ?


originally dragged from C&A.
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 21, 2013, 12:54
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:

Mibbe greater likelihood of bluestones being found in BHS ?


originally dragged from C&A.





Lol
Cremation & Ancestors ?
Evergreen Dazed
1881 posts

Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 21, 2013, 12:59
tiompan wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:

Mibbe greater likelihood of bluestones being found in BHS ?


originally dragged from C&A.





Lol
Cremation & Ancestors ?


ha!
the ones i've been in definitely have that atmosphere
tiompan
tiompan
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Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 21, 2013, 13:11
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:

Mibbe greater likelihood of bluestones being found in BHS ?


originally dragged from C&A.





Lol
Cremation & Ancestors ?


ha!
the ones i've been in definitely have that atmosphere




In a doc from 0ctober 2009 " bluestonehenge :Technical details " MPP wrote "“The stones were extracted whole and were not broken up (as was the practice in the Medieval period). As a result, only two bluestone fragments were found, both of spotted dolerite.”
In his Stonehenge book of 2012 talking of BSH he says ""one of things puzzling me was why we had no chippings from the stones themselves."
Evergreen Dazed
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Edited Nov 21, 2013, 13:55
Re: Carn Goedog
Nov 21, 2013, 13:26
tiompan wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
tiompan wrote:

Mibbe greater likelihood of bluestones being found in BHS ?


originally dragged from C&A.





Lol
Cremation & Ancestors ?


ha!
the ones i've been in definitely have that atmosphere




In a doc from 0ctober 2009 " bluestonehenge :Technical details " MPP wrote "“The stones were extracted whole and were not broken up (as was the practice in the Medieval period). As a result, only two bluestone fragments were found, both of spotted dolerite.”
In his Stonehenge book of 2012 talking of BSH he says ""one of things puzzling me was why we had no chippings from the stones themselves."


Strange.

Now an error has been found any 'researcher' worth his/her salt will, of course, write a ranting blog IN SHOUTY WORDS.
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