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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Aug 16, 2013, 09:12
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Is the Mekon still going? What a bloke. Super antiheroes ain't what they used to be.
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Sanctuary 4670 posts |
Aug 16, 2013, 09:17
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nigelswift wrote: Is the Mekon still going? What a bloke. Super antiheroes ain't what they used to be. This'll warm your cockles!! http://www.slashfilm.com/sam-worthington-is-dan-dare-pilot-of-the-future/
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nigelswift 8112 posts |
Aug 16, 2013, 09:33
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Glad he's still got zigzag eyebrows!
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Incoming Traveller 218 posts |
Aug 16, 2013, 10:15
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Thanks for the 'Mapping The Sun' info - I'll be in Liskeard over the weekend and might make it on one of the days.
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Evergreen Dazed 1881 posts |
Aug 16, 2013, 10:26
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Sanctuary wrote: Evergreen Dazed wrote: As I said, I wouldn't get too hung up about it if I were you. Even if you think of something like the World Cup final there is an element of ceremony about it. I really think ceremony and ritual are words used to convey that we don't really know what was going on at these places, but whatever it was there seems to have been a formality attached to it. When you encounter an enigmatic site like Fernworthy, for example, a graduated stone circle with rows leading off toward cairns, I think ceremony/ritual use is a perfectly acceptable description, precisely because it is so vague. I'm not hung up on it ED, just opening a point for discussion, but would only ever consider ceremonial as a possibility amongst others myself. The point has been brought up before that proof is everything has it not? I think there are strong indications of ceremonial/ritual activity though, I can't really see why this would be questioned? You often hear archaeologists say a LIKELY ritual function. If you were an archaeologist, in what other way would you describe the function & use of what you have found at prehistoric sites? I will admit there is perhaps a feeling that an archaeologist has to come up with 'something' to justify their position and the work they have carried out (in the eyes of the public, anyway), but I think anybody involved in the subject knows it is just a kind of 'best fit' and isn't particularly important. I'm interested - how would you describe a site like the Avebury circle(s) to the general public? If the answer to that is along the lines of 'We don't know what this was used for', that is essentially what ceremony/ritual is saying anyway. I don't think the general public is being misled by literature saying 'likely ritual function', because, to be honest, there are plenty of pointers toward its use being just that!
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ryaner 679 posts |
Aug 16, 2013, 11:38
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nigelswift wrote: Is the Mekon still going? What a bloke. Super antiheroes ain't what they used to be. Going strong i hear: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Mekons
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Sanctuary 4670 posts |
Aug 16, 2013, 11:47
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Evergreen Dazed wrote: Sanctuary wrote: Evergreen Dazed wrote: As I said, I wouldn't get too hung up about it if I were you. Even if you think of something like the World Cup final there is an element of ceremony about it. I really think ceremony and ritual are words used to convey that we don't really know what was going on at these places, but whatever it was there seems to have been a formality attached to it. When you encounter an enigmatic site like Fernworthy, for example, a graduated stone circle with rows leading off toward cairns, I think ceremony/ritual use is a perfectly acceptable description, precisely because it is so vague. I'm not hung up on it ED, just opening a point for discussion, but would only ever consider ceremonial as a possibility amongst others myself. The point has been brought up before that proof is everything has it not? I think there are strong indications of ceremonial/ritual activity though, I can't really see why this would be questioned? You often hear archaeologists say a LIKELY ritual function. If you were an archaeologist, in what other way would you describe the function & use of what you have found at prehistoric sites? I will admit there is perhaps a feeling that an archaeologist has to come up with 'something' to justify their position and the work they have carried out (in the eyes of the public, anyway), but I think anybody involved in the subject knows it is just a kind of 'best fit' and isn't particularly important. I'm interested - how would you describe a site like the Avebury circle(s) to the general public? If the answer to that is along the lines of 'We don't know what this was used for', that is essentially what ceremony/ritual is saying anyway. I don't think the general public is being misled by literature saying 'likely ritual function', because, to be honest, there are plenty of pointers toward its use being just that! I have no problem personally with 'a likely ritual function' as that is one perfectly reasonably assumption but not sounding like fact as there could be others. People would understand that I'm sure. And yes, you're right...I think people do expect archaeologist to come up with something quite plausible which to a degree is unfair on them. Improved dating is helping them enormously as is geofizz etc but they have a very difficult time getting it right all the time as we have seen over the years as new evidence presents itself. Still liked to have been one though :-)
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Sanctuary 4670 posts |
Aug 16, 2013, 12:04
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Incoming Traveller wrote: Thanks for the 'Mapping The Sun' info - I'll be in Liskeard over the weekend and might make it on one of the days. Brilliant. I'm really looking forward to it. I expect the whole village (Minions) will turn out!
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Evergreen Dazed 1881 posts |
Edited Aug 16, 2013, 15:42
Aug 16, 2013, 15:41
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Sanctuary wrote: Still liked to have been one though :-) Me too!
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woolybaque 109 posts |
Aug 16, 2013, 16:13
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Modern science can't be expected to provide any 'proof' or 'evidence' of any inherent meaning, as science will discard whatever it can't understand as irrelevant. Mention the words 'astrology' or 'soul' and watch the eyes glaze over and any subsequent hypothesis rubbished.
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