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Re: Deer Stones
Dec 08, 2012, 22:13
Anew wrote:
part 2 :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10195550@N07/1047822939/lightbox/ . Balanced and centered above a gap in a (slightly) sloping band of dots are three outlined circles, one large and two small . Perhaps these represent one mature and two budding fly agaric ; perhaps a group of souls, (parent and children?) ; perhaps celestial objects, if the two small are the sun and moon, might the large be the Earth ? Don't know .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisjstanley/377928280/ . This stone bears a solid line beneath a circle . Perhaps a gap was implied by the natural break of the rock beneath the circle . Of interest in this context may be the Scottish stone circle Templewood, where a natural break in a carved stone may have represented a boat and its course past the dangerous whirlpool Corryvreckan .

A happy face : http://www.flickr.com/photos/gareththomas79/3634547519/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/gareththomas79/3633158229/lightbox/ ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/gareththomas79/3633969192/lightbox/ . These show a level, solid (and possibly unbroken) line beneath a circle . If so that would seem to represent an impermeable barrier to a passing soul, (if the circle represented this), thus interpretation as a celestial rising or setting may be preferred .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/laros/1372165197/lightbox/ . A stone row . Could this be related to the dotted lines below some of the circles on these stones ? Could it be related to the stone rows of the British Isles ?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/28388334@N08/3600573764/lightbox/ . Here's something i think is worth paying attention to . A deity, toadstool-spirit, soul or sun-figure rises through a sloping dotted line . The circle-head of the figure has short rays all around it . Another small circle is nearby . The rays might imply the sun, but the smaller circle nearby is not near proportionally correct to be the moon ; and the body of the figure seems too slender to be a fitting sun-god . As a shining soul or an anthropomorphic magic toadstool spirit it would make more sense (to me) .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/62847133@N04/5828464784/lightbox/ . On this stone a dotted line separates an outlined circle, (above), from a filled circle, (below) . A brace of stacked chevrons also appears, along with a block & triangle symbol i haven't seen before . This dotted line has no wide gap, which is not unique, but is somewhat unusual . I think that the filled and empty circles may be, taken together, a statement of inversion ~ that one side of the dotted line was representative of the realm of the living, the other of that of the dead or yet-to-be-born, (who may have been grouped in their beliefs) ~ with the circles changing their character accordingly . The principle of inversion also seems to be represented in one or more surviving Pazyryk tattoos, (which include a fantastic animal which combines attributes of several natural animals), shown with the trunk twisting a full 180 degrees as though walking in two realms, in the archaeological record of the British Isles, (at such places as seahenge), and in some surviving African tribal customs . It is broadly distributed in the archaeological milieu, enough so that it may, i think reasonably, have been part of the human Urkultur . Turning to the brace of chevrons, there appear to be nine of them, thrice three, which may have been considered an auspicious number . To the question of whether they could be representative of / linked to the Demoiselle Crane (migrating in formation), one might add that of whether this was intended to be many flocks along a migratory path, or one flock at successive points in time . I lean toward the former . This previously cited stone, (http://www.flickr.com/photos/mariedragon/4015115492/lightbox/), has a brace of twelve chevrons, four times three, and this also previously cited stone, (http://www.flickr.com/photos/explorealtai/5674978157/lightbox/), appears to have a brace of nine again .

That brings to mind these photos, (http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisjstanley/369732370/ ; http://www.flickr.com/photos/chrisjstanley/show/with/369732370), which appear to show three parallel carved lines . The beast on this stone has no antlers . Though it could be a doe, it may also indicate that, like the fish, the deer aspect of the beast was not an indispensable part of its representation .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/exchangesphotos/5839181721/lightbox/ . This three sided impression has two circles at its top, on opposite sides, and is awash with beasties . The two circles at the top of the stone seem to be of opposite nature : one (to the right) filled, the other outlined . They seem also to be part of a larger design, the details of which are unclear, but suggestive . There is a dotted line running beneath these, having no wide gap . The beasts are quite fine, including the deer's tail and antlers both deer-like and wave-like, along with the taimen's dorsal fin and the crane's head ; (as i interpret it) .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/exchangesphotos/5839181711/lightbox/ . And this three sided impression has a belt of triangles and stacked chevrons that curve, like a cornucopia or an esoteric marine fossil . However, i think these may be representative of the 'Mongolian death worm', (http://www.flickr.com/photos/museumofworldwonders/5446597220/) , a ferocious-looking (and rare) burrowing insect which introduces the possibility that 'evil' or destructive intent had a place in their belief systems, though not a pre-eminent one . Worthy of note : one of the beasties on the front of the stone has both antlers and a camel-like double-hump . As a one-of, this might simply have reflected the humor of the artist ; or it might indicate a degree of flexibility with the form . The Bactrian camel is native to that area, and was likely important enough to some to include in the mythology/iconography . In those stretches the camel frequents, the fish might have seemed a logical swap-out . The stone also has a fine belt of chained triangles across its bottom . It may be that two of the reasons that chained triangles were a common symbol of the time were that these combined beliefs about the divinity of the number three with beliefs about inversion into a symbol, "greater than the sum of its parts" . The triangles invert with every step, yet by filling the space completely imply a harmony exists in doing so . Perhaps by extension, that life and death were aspects of a balanced whole which could be seen from the (transcendental) outside .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/explorealtai/5674978157/lightbox/ . This stone has a brace of chevrons at the bottom . The stone on the ground nearby may be an example of an unfinished man-stone ~ a much different style found in the same landscape . At the top of the deer stone is a dotted line with a circle above a slight gap . I think that i see a toadstool-stalk/soul body below the circle, extending through the gap .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/marissas23/906236213/lightbox/ . This one reminds me of a photo of the French stone Lanvenael, (http://www.stonepages.com/france/lanvenaelhi.html) . I find myself wondering if other stones had beasts of varying descriptions drawn/painted on them back in the day .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/karneipix/2876925999/lightbox/ . Fine stones with all the elements . Once again, i think i see a very slender stalk-body below the large circle on the one in the background .

Beasties along the edge of a fallen stone . http://www.flickr.com/photos/bmjenks/205518044/lightbox/ .

Pursuing the dotted line to another venue,there is a long PDF file on a 17 year research dig in Yorkshire available through this link, http://www.stonepages.com/news/archives/004408.html . One of the things they found was that rows of pits had been dug, often with nothing much to explain them ; (there are maps on pages 103, 123, 157, 161 and 170) . In the map on page 157, against a row running northwest, and north of a gap in a row, is a ring ditch remaining from a barrow in which there was a cremation ; (pp. 216 bottom - 217) . I consider there may be a commonality between the Deer Stone symbolism-subset of the dotted line with the gap, above which is a circle with (often) a wraith-like stalk-like figure rising through the line ; and the presence of this barrow above a gap in the row of pits . Part of the puzzle is that nothing more substantial than a flint microlith and a piece of fired clay were found in the nearby pits . It may be possible that these held something temporal/soft which does not now survive, (hasn't been detected) . But i think it is also possible that the pits weren't meant to hold something, so much as to be something ~ perhaps an embodiment of the terrifying void .

http://www.flickr.com/photos/exchangesphotos/5839181687/lightbox/ . On this stone, which also show antlers both deer-like and wave-like, three parallel lines again appear, (something mentioned in the last post), this time at the bottom .

This post is based on work i originally posted as 'Anew' to the Alternative Theories forum of the website stonepages.com


Some fantastic stuff there Anew thanks for sharing. Are you living in Africa or on an extended break?

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