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thesweetcheat
thesweetcheat
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Re: Hillforts & Barrows
Sep 16, 2012, 16:41
Evergreen Dazed wrote:


Great link, thanks. Wonder why the metal detectorist fessed up? Perhaps he was being pursued by the shades of BA warriors.
Evergreen Dazed
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Re: Hillforts & Barrows
Sep 16, 2012, 16:53
thesweetcheat wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:


Great link, thanks. Wonder why the metal detectorist fessed up? Perhaps he was being pursued by the shades of BA warriors.


Perhaps. Let's hope so, eh?
I don't want to think about how many other artefacts like that have been removed from sites under the cover of darkness.
Resonox
604 posts

Re: Hillforts & Barrows
Sep 16, 2012, 16:56
Sanctuary wrote:
Resonox wrote:
Just as an aside to the conversation...I was up Chanctonbury Ring today...there are several tumuli/barrow mounds around the outer limits of the "fort" boundary. ..All of an almost identical diameter...though they vary in height due to ploughing out etc. Considering how many people must have inhabited the fort during its life, why such a relatively few number of mounds....were only "important" people interred so close to the area...and if so, where did the others get buried (I am making a great assumption that these are actual graves I know).


Strangely enough..just by the triangulation stone there is a cleared area...right sized for a tumulus.......it looks like some aftermath of excavation work....this would be the highest point on the hill too. I used to have a link which transferred present day maps into "ancient" maps...and showed intersting sites etc...but have since lost this.


It may be that the majority were cremated Resonox and scattered.


So why were some afforded a lasting memorial I wonder....heads of tribes...shamanic guides...mighty warriors...wise women/men...midwifes.....??
harestonesdown
1067 posts

Re: Hillforts & Barrows
Sep 16, 2012, 17:01
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
thesweetcheat wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:


Great link, thanks. Wonder why the metal detectorist fessed up? Perhaps he was being pursued by the shades of BA warriors.


Perhaps. Let's hope so, eh?
I don't want to think about how many other artefacts like that have been removed from sites under the cover of darkness.










Could always bury a few fakes, with telemetry embedded. ;)
Resonox
604 posts

Re: Hillforts & Barrows
Sep 16, 2012, 17:03
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
Resonox wrote:
Just as an aside to the conversation...I was up Chanctonbury Ring today...there are several tumuli/barrow mounds around the outer limits of the "fort" boundary. ..All of an almost identical diameter...though they vary in height due to ploughing out etc. Considering how many people must have inhabited the fort during its life, why such a relatively few number of mounds....were only "important" people interred so close to the area...and if so, where did the others get buried (I am making a great assumption that these are actual graves I know).


Strangely enough..just by the triangulation stone there is a cleared area...right sized for a tumulus.......it looks like some aftermath of excavation work....this would be the highest point on the hill too. I used to have a link which transferred present day maps into "ancient" maps...and showed intersting sites etc...but have since lost this.


Moving into the IA, there were generally no burials, or very few.
Bones are found, suggesting bodies were left to rot. Postholes at ivinghoe found during the geophysical survey which revealed the poss cursus, we're interpreted as a poss excarnation platform.


My reply to Sanctuary also applies to your reply too.....What criteria deemed you suitable for a lasting memorial....? Also being left "to rot" might have been seen as a mighty honour too...as assorted wildlife would scavenge your remains....maybe this was seen as giving something back to nature..
Evergreen Dazed
1881 posts

Re: Hillforts & Barrows
Sep 16, 2012, 17:11
harestonesdown wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
thesweetcheat wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:


Great link, thanks. Wonder why the metal detectorist fessed up? Perhaps he was being pursued by the shades of BA warriors.


Perhaps. Let's hope so, eh?
I don't want to think about how many other artefacts like that have been removed from sites under the cover of darkness.



Could always bury a few fakes, with telemetry embedded. ;)


Ha, can you imagine. I've no problem, generally, with responsible detectorists but knobheads digging up scheduled monuments in the hope of making a bit of cash.. christ almighty.
Evergreen Dazed
1881 posts

Re: Hillforts & Barrows
Sep 16, 2012, 17:12
Resonox wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
Resonox wrote:
Just as an aside to the conversation...I was up Chanctonbury Ring today...there are several tumuli/barrow mounds around the outer limits of the "fort" boundary. ..All of an almost identical diameter...though they vary in height due to ploughing out etc. Considering how many people must have inhabited the fort during its life, why such a relatively few number of mounds....were only "important" people interred so close to the area...and if so, where did the others get buried (I am making a great assumption that these are actual graves I know).


Strangely enough..just by the triangulation stone there is a cleared area...right sized for a tumulus.......it looks like some aftermath of excavation work....this would be the highest point on the hill too. I used to have a link which transferred present day maps into "ancient" maps...and showed intersting sites etc...but have since lost this.


Moving into the IA, there were generally no burials, or very few.
Bones are found, suggesting bodies were left to rot. Postholes at ivinghoe found during the geophysical survey which revealed the poss cursus, we're interpreted as a poss excarnation platform.


My reply to Sanctuary also applies to your reply too.....What criteria deemed you suitable for a lasting memorial....? Also being left "to rot" might have been seen as a mighty honour too...as assorted wildlife would scavenge your remains....maybe this was seen as giving something back to nature..


Who knows. I suppose anything is possible in that regard.
harestonesdown
1067 posts

Re: Hillforts & Barrows
Sep 16, 2012, 17:19
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
harestonesdown wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
thesweetcheat wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:


Great link, thanks. Wonder why the metal detectorist fessed up? Perhaps he was being pursued by the shades of BA warriors.


Perhaps. Let's hope so, eh?
I don't want to think about how many other artefacts like that have been removed from sites under the cover of darkness.



Could always bury a few fakes, with telemetry embedded. ;)


Ha, can you imagine. I've no problem, generally, with responsible detectorists but knobheads digging up scheduled monuments in the hope of making a bit of cash.. christ almighty.



Well i guess we've all been asked the question why we're fascinated by earthen bumps, half buried stones, "site of" sites where nothing remains etc, which goes to show some people have no interest or love of the things we treasure, or even any semblance of respect in some cases. Maybe this is an example.

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=5299&forum=1
Evergreen Dazed
1881 posts

Re: Hillforts & Barrows
Sep 16, 2012, 17:25
harestonesdown wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
harestonesdown wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
thesweetcheat wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:


Great link, thanks. Wonder why the metal detectorist fessed up? Perhaps he was being pursued by the shades of BA warriors.


Perhaps. Let's hope so, eh?
I don't want to think about how many other artefacts like that have been removed from sites under the cover of darkness.



Could always bury a few fakes, with telemetry embedded. ;)


Ha, can you imagine. I've no problem, generally, with responsible detectorists but knobheads digging up scheduled monuments in the hope of making a bit of cash.. christ almighty.



Well i guess we've all been asked the question why we're fascinated by earthen bumps, half buried stones, "site of" sites where nothing remains etc, which goes to show some people have no interest or love of the things we treasure, or even any semblance of respect in some cases. Maybe this is an example.

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=5299&forum=1


What on earth has gone on there? Nasty indeed, as Mr B says.
harestonesdown
1067 posts

Re: Hillforts & Barrows
Sep 16, 2012, 17:30
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
harestonesdown wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
harestonesdown wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:
thesweetcheat wrote:
Evergreen Dazed wrote:


Great link, thanks. Wonder why the metal detectorist fessed up? Perhaps he was being pursued by the shades of BA warriors.


Perhaps. Let's hope so, eh?
I don't want to think about how many other artefacts like that have been removed from sites under the cover of darkness.



Could always bury a few fakes, with telemetry embedded. ;)


Ha, can you imagine. I've no problem, generally, with responsible detectorists but knobheads digging up scheduled monuments in the hope of making a bit of cash.. christ almighty.



Well i guess we've all been asked the question why we're fascinated by earthen bumps, half buried stones, "site of" sites where nothing remains etc, which goes to show some people have no interest or love of the things we treasure, or even any semblance of respect in some cases. Maybe this is an example.

http://www.megalithic.co.uk/modules.php?op=modload&name=Forum&file=viewtopic&topic=5299&forum=1


What on earth has gone on there? Nasty indeed, as Mr B says.



It's a strange one isn't it, and worryingly close to several other scheduled monuments.
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