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GLADMAN 950 posts |
Sep 03, 2012, 20:46
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Intrigued to read from the notice board at Coldrum that a stone upon the western arc of the kerb was possibly used to 'polish' axes.... presumably when still erect. I've posted a couple of pics of what the Mam C and I (independently) reckon to be the stone in question.....
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thesweetcheat 6218 posts |
Sep 03, 2012, 21:39
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GLADMAN wrote: Intrigued to read from the notice board at Coldrum that a stone upon the western arc of the kerb was possibly used to 'polish' axes.... presumably when still erect. I've posted a couple of pics of what the Mam C and I (independently) reckon to be the stone in question..... The polisher at Fyfield is recumbent...
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tjj 3606 posts |
Sep 03, 2012, 23:13
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thesweetcheat wrote: GLADMAN wrote: Intrigued to read from the notice board at Coldrum that a stone upon the western arc of the kerb was possibly used to 'polish' axes.... presumably when still erect. I've posted a couple of pics of what the Mam C and I (independently) reckon to be the stone in question..... The polisher at Fyfield is recumbent... One of the West Kennet Avenue stones at Avebury has polisher marks on it - presumably used for that purpose before it was erected.
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harestonesdown 1067 posts |
Sep 04, 2012, 00:58
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I believe the polisher isn't in it's original location but was moved there from.............Well i don't really know but that's what i was told. :) TJJ, Yes, The avenue stone would have been impossible to work in it's current position. There's also several polishing marks in the West Kennett longbarrow, Some obvious, Some not so, Until you touch them. I believe there are several dozen more documented (in the Avebury area) but i can't remember the source.
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bladup 1986 posts |
Edited Sep 04, 2012, 03:24
Sep 04, 2012, 03:19
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harestonesdown wrote: I believe the polisher isn't in it's original location but was moved there from.............Well i don't really know but that's what i was told. :) TJJ, Yes, The avenue stone would have been impossible to work in it's current position. There's also several polishing marks in the West Kennett longbarrow, Some obvious, Some not so, Until you touch them. I believe there are several dozen more documented (in the Avebury area) but i can't remember the source. Go and sit at the polisher in the avenue and pretend to polish, it's perfect where it is, the fyfield downs polisher was stood up as well and the main polisher outside the second chamber on the left in west kennet is stood up as well, 3 stones, all polishers and all were stood up when used, honestly just go sit at the 2 still stood up and you'll see what i mean, and when you compare the avebury polishers with the coldrum one, the coldrum one doesn't really convince me, as the markings seem quite natural.
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harestonesdown 1067 posts |
Sep 04, 2012, 08:08
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bladup wrote: harestonesdown wrote: I believe the polisher isn't in it's original location but was moved there from.............Well i don't really know but that's what i was told. :) TJJ, Yes, The avenue stone would have been impossible to work in it's current position. There's also several polishing marks in the West Kennett longbarrow, Some obvious, Some not so, Until you touch them. I believe there are several dozen more documented (in the Avebury area) but i can't remember the source. Go and sit at the polisher in the avenue and pretend to polish, it's perfect where it is, the fyfield downs polisher was stood up as well and the main polisher outside the second chamber on the left in west kennet is stood up as well, 3 stones, all polishers and all were stood up when used, honestly just go sit at the 2 still stood up and you'll see what i mean, . With respect i can't disagree more, Having spent many hours by the polisher and the WKLB examples, And a fair bit of time by the WKA one. I 100% believe in use they would have been recumbent. Using them erect would be quite pointless and the toil would have been extra tortuous, Imo.
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Evergreen Dazed 1881 posts |
Sep 04, 2012, 08:39
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harestonesdown wrote: bladup wrote: harestonesdown wrote: I believe the polisher isn't in it's original location but was moved there from.............Well i don't really know but that's what i was told. :) TJJ, Yes, The avenue stone would have been impossible to work in it's current position. There's also several polishing marks in the West Kennett longbarrow, Some obvious, Some not so, Until you touch them. I believe there are several dozen more documented (in the Avebury area) but i can't remember the source. Go and sit at the polisher in the avenue and pretend to polish, it's perfect where it is, the fyfield downs polisher was stood up as well and the main polisher outside the second chamber on the left in west kennet is stood up as well, 3 stones, all polishers and all were stood up when used, honestly just go sit at the 2 still stood up and you'll see what i mean, . With respect i can't disagree more, Having spent many hours by the polisher and the WKLB examples, And a fair bit of time by the WKA one. I 100% believe in use they would have been recumbent. Using them erect would be quite pointless and the toil would have been extra tortuous, Imo. Aye, surely the avenue stone was recumbent when in use as a polisher? It would seem an awkward choice, otherwise. I love going to up to the polisher on Fyfield. I remember being totally blown away the first time I visited and sat there running my fingers over the smooth surface. I couldn't believe such a thing still existed.
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harestonesdown 1067 posts |
Sep 04, 2012, 08:51
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Evergreen Dazed wrote: harestonesdown wrote: bladup wrote: harestonesdown wrote: I believe the polisher isn't in it's original location but was moved there from.............Well i don't really know but that's what i was told. :) TJJ, Yes, The avenue stone would have been impossible to work in it's current position. There's also several polishing marks in the West Kennett longbarrow, Some obvious, Some not so, Until you touch them. I believe there are several dozen more documented (in the Avebury area) but i can't remember the source. Go and sit at the polisher in the avenue and pretend to polish, it's perfect where it is, the fyfield downs polisher was stood up as well and the main polisher outside the second chamber on the left in west kennet is stood up as well, 3 stones, all polishers and all were stood up when used, honestly just go sit at the 2 still stood up and you'll see what i mean, . With respect i can't disagree more, Having spent many hours by the polisher and the WKLB examples, And a fair bit of time by the WKA one. I 100% believe in use they would have been recumbent. Using them erect would be quite pointless and the toil would have been extra tortuous, Imo. Aye, surely the avenue stone was recumbent when in use as a polisher? It would seem an awkward choice, otherwise. I love going to up to the polisher on Fyfield. I remember being totally blown away the first time I visited and sat there running my fingers over the smooth surface. I couldn't believe such a thing still existed. It's great with friends, And a picnic. ;)
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Evergreen Dazed 1881 posts |
Sep 04, 2012, 09:13
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harestonesdown wrote: Evergreen Dazed wrote: harestonesdown wrote: bladup wrote: harestonesdown wrote: I believe the polisher isn't in it's original location but was moved there from.............Well i don't really know but that's what i was told. :) TJJ, Yes, The avenue stone would have been impossible to work in it's current position. There's also several polishing marks in the West Kennett longbarrow, Some obvious, Some not so, Until you touch them. I believe there are several dozen more documented (in the Avebury area) but i can't remember the source. Go and sit at the polisher in the avenue and pretend to polish, it's perfect where it is, the fyfield downs polisher was stood up as well and the main polisher outside the second chamber on the left in west kennet is stood up as well, 3 stones, all polishers and all were stood up when used, honestly just go sit at the 2 still stood up and you'll see what i mean, . With respect i can't disagree more, Having spent many hours by the polisher and the WKLB examples, And a fair bit of time by the WKA one. I 100% believe in use they would have been recumbent. Using them erect would be quite pointless and the toil would have been extra tortuous, Imo. Aye, surely the avenue stone was recumbent when in use as a polisher? It would seem an awkward choice, otherwise. I love going to up to the polisher on Fyfield. I remember being totally blown away the first time I visited and sat there running my fingers over the smooth surface. I couldn't believe such a thing still existed. It's great with friends, And a picnic. ;) I can imagine! Especially if pork pies and pickled onions are involved at some point. :)
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bladup 1986 posts |
Edited Sep 04, 2012, 23:55
Sep 04, 2012, 14:17
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harestonesdown wrote: bladup wrote: harestonesdown wrote: I believe the polisher isn't in it's original location but was moved there from.............Well i don't really know but that's what i was told. :) TJJ, Yes, The avenue stone would have been impossible to work in it's current position. There's also several polishing marks in the West Kennett longbarrow, Some obvious, Some not so, Until you touch them. I believe there are several dozen more documented (in the Avebury area) but i can't remember the source. Go and sit at the polisher in the avenue and pretend to polish, it's perfect where it is, the fyfield downs polisher was stood up as well and the main polisher outside the second chamber on the left in west kennet is stood up as well, 3 stones, all polishers and all were stood up when used, honestly just go sit at the 2 still stood up and you'll see what i mean, . With respect i can't disagree more, Having spent many hours by the polisher and the WKLB examples, And a fair bit of time by the WKA one. I 100% believe in use they would have been recumbent. Using them erect would be quite pointless and the toil would have been extra tortuous, Imo. The fyfield polisher was proven to be stood up and the other two are up, you think they were laid down then put up, so you think the fyfield one was down then put up and then pulled down again, this is a lot of activity in the middle of nowhere!!, sounds like you once read that in a book and you just believe it, i know someone who makes stone axes the ancient way and told me it would be very hard to do if they were laid down [ like the fyfield one - which was proved to be stood up ] but the two stood up ones were perfect for it, as are his axes, i will believe him any day over you [ because of practical proof ], he makes them, do you? i think you are wrong i'm afraid, plus highly polished stone axes are the age of avebury, before avebury was built, the axes round there didn't tend to be so highly polished, this also backs up the theory that the marks were caused while stood up.
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