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tjj 3606 posts |
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Jan 23, 2012, 22:44
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01b9bq5/Country_Tracks_Wiltshire/ A friend emailed me to say Countrytracks on Sunday morning was set exclusively in Wiltshire. The first item has the presenter Helen Skelton climbing Silbury with Jim Leary (special permission granted). Next, Tom Fort visits Stonehenge, much about the A303 plus a some black and white footage of the re-erection of stones in the 1950s - 23 stones were re-erected. I for one didn't realise it was that many. Tom Fort makes the point that this would probably not be acceptable today. Filmed last summer so this may be a repeat. If it is, certainly worth seeing again.
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Resonox 604 posts |
Jan 24, 2012, 07:48
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tjj wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01b9bq5/Country_Tracks_Wiltshire/ A friend emailed me to say Countrytracks on Sunday morning was set exclusively in Wiltshire. The first item has the presenter Helen Skelton climbing Silbury with Jim Leary (special permission granted). Next, Tom Fort visits Stonehenge, much about the A303 plus a some black and white footage of the re-erection of stones in the 1950s - 23 stones were re-erected. I for one didn't realise it was that many. Tom Fort makes the point that this would probably not be acceptable today. Filmed last summer so this may be a repeat. If it is, certainly worth seeing again. Did it say that these 23 were re-erected in the 50s alone or is this the total since recorded rennovation started?
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VBB 558 posts |
Jan 24, 2012, 09:23
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Resonox wrote: tjj wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01b9bq5/Country_Tracks_Wiltshire/ A friend emailed me to say Countrytracks on Sunday morning was set exclusively in Wiltshire. The first item has the presenter Helen Skelton climbing Silbury with Jim Leary (special permission granted). Next, Tom Fort visits Stonehenge, much about the A303 plus a some black and white footage of the re-erection of stones in the 1950s - 23 stones were re-erected. I for one didn't realise it was that many. Tom Fort makes the point that this would probably not be acceptable today. Filmed last summer so this may be a repeat. If it is, certainly worth seeing again. Did it say that these 23 were re-erected in the 50s alone or is this the total since recorded rennovation started? It is rather more... but unless discussed in comparative terms, such as Stonehenge as a 100 piece jigsaw and so many pieces and such and such % has changed, the number of stones altered can mean little other than an initial shock (and perhaps disappointment). When only one stone was restored in 1901, that single stone changed the silhouette/outline of Stonehenge into something it had never ever been at any point in history or prehistory. Just as important is that those that control the story as told at the site and through such as official publications and postcards left these major chapters out. As a result the visiting paying £ public were not aware of it. Hence it is good that such as the BBC now feature the changes as part of the story.
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VBB 558 posts |
Jan 24, 2012, 09:25
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VBB wrote: Resonox wrote: tjj wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01b9bq5/Country_Tracks_Wiltshire/ A friend emailed me to say Countrytracks on Sunday morning was set exclusively in Wiltshire. The first item has the presenter Helen Skelton climbing Silbury with Jim Leary (special permission granted). Next, Tom Fort visits Stonehenge, much about the A303 plus a some black and white footage of the re-erection of stones in the 1950s - 23 stones were re-erected. I for one didn't realise it was that many. Tom Fort makes the point that this would probably not be acceptable today. Filmed last summer so this may be a repeat. If it is, certainly worth seeing again. Did it say that these 23 were re-erected in the 50s alone or is this the total since recorded rennovation started? It is rather more... but unless discussed in comparative terms, such as Stonehenge as a 100 piece jigsaw and so many pieces and such and such % has changed, the number of stones altered can mean little other than an initial shock (and perhaps disappointment). When only one stone was restored in 1901, that single stone changed the silhouette/outline of Stonehenge into something it had never ever been at any point in history or prehistory. Just as important is that those that control the story as told at the site and through such as official publications and postcards left these major chapters out. As a result the visiting paying £ public were not aware of it. Hence it is good that such as the BBC now feature the changes as part of the story. Oops, meant to say thanks for the link June, I hadn't seen it! VBB
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Sanctuary 4670 posts |
Jan 24, 2012, 09:36
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tjj wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01b9bq5/Country_Tracks_Wiltshire/ A friend emailed me to say Countrytracks on Sunday morning was set exclusively in Wiltshire. The first item has the presenter Helen Skelton climbing Silbury with Jim Leary (special permission granted). Next, Tom Fort visits Stonehenge, much about the A303 plus a some black and white footage of the re-erection of stones in the 1950s - 23 stones were re-erected. I for one didn't realise it was that many. Tom Fort makes the point that this would probably not be acceptable today. Filmed last summer so this may be a repeat. If it is, certainly worth seeing again. Hi June, I found it interesting that JL now sees the Swallowhead Springs and the R.Kennet as the reason Silbury was built there. I don't recall reading that in his book you were kind enough to loan me, did I miss it? Someone else had the temerity to suggest that also didn't they!! :-)
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tjj 3606 posts |
Jan 24, 2012, 11:27
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Thanks VBB for your informed post .. I have just had a quick look in Rosemary Hill's very readable book on Stonehenge and there are some reproductions of pre (and early) 20th century images: "Turner's watercolour view, engraved by Robert Wallis,1829. The shepherd lies dead in the storm, the sheep abandoned. For the Romatics the stones were predominantly a place of psychic dread and terror" This image shows a ruined Stonehenge. (Chapter 4) There is also a photograph of about 1896 showing the fallen western trilithon and the timber supports propping the leaning stones. Roy, am glad you enjoyed the Silbury bit. Jim Leary certainly mentioned the Winterbourne/Kennet rivers and Swallowhead Spring as being a source of the Thames in the talk he gave prior to the book being published. The Thames of course has more than one source - the highest being in Gloucestershire. Its a another theory and as good as any ... I like it.
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VBB 558 posts |
Jan 24, 2012, 12:25
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tjj wrote: Thanks VBB for your informed post .. I have just had a quick look in Rosemary Hill's very readable book on Stonehenge and there are some reproductions of pre (and early) 20th century images: There's a mid 17th century/19th cent/Great War images to compare here: "Turner's watercolour view, engraved by Robert Wallis,1829. The shepherd lies dead in the storm, the sheep abandoned. For the Romatics the stones were predominantly a place of psychic dread and terror" This image shows a ruined Stonehenge. (Chapter 4) There is also a photograph of about 1896 showing the fallen western trilithon and the timber supports propping the leaning stones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge
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Sanctuary 4670 posts |
Jan 24, 2012, 12:36
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VBB wrote: tjj wrote: Thanks VBB for your informed post .. I have just had a quick look in Rosemary Hill's very readable book on Stonehenge and there are some reproductions of pre (and early) 20th century images: There's a mid 17th century/19th cent/Great War images to compare here: "Turner's watercolour view, engraved by Robert Wallis,1829. The shepherd lies dead in the storm, the sheep abandoned. For the Romatics the stones were predominantly a place of psychic dread and terror" This image shows a ruined Stonehenge. (Chapter 4) There is also a photograph of about 1896 showing the fallen western trilithon and the timber supports propping the leaning stones. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stonehenge The 1895 print of Stonehenge compared to the 2008 photograph taken from a similar position is quite revealing isn't it showing the renovation work carried out in the interim.
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