Littlestone
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 22, 2011, 16:31
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Having said the above I do wonder whether there might be some missing Keiller connection despite the apparent lack of evidence to support it.
Don't the concrete markers in the Henge itself date from around the same time and belong to the same ‘Egyptian’ Art Deco influence?
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nigelswift
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 22, 2011, 16:53
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VBB wrote: The WHS is supposed to take priority and one wonders what on earth is going on?
Yes. The WHS ought to take priority.
Every time it doesn't a little bit more deterioration is bequeathed to posterity.
It's strange, it looks like Stonehenge is finally being put back to the way it ought to be whereas Avebury is subject to incremental loss. Both processes can't be right, in the same WHS.
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VBB
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 22, 2011, 17:06
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Littlestone wrote: Having said the above I do wonder whether there might be some missing Keiller connection despite the apparent lack of evidence to support it.
Don't the concrete markers in the Henge itself date from around the same time and belong to the same ‘Egyptian’ Art Deco influence?
Yes and I agree, they are like little Cleo needles. The hints are certainly there but nothing on paper. This is a bit of an itch that can't be scratched.
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VBB
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 22, 2011, 17:11
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nigelswift wrote: VBB wrote: The WHS is supposed to take priority and one wonders what on earth is going on?
Yes. The WHS ought to take priority.
Every time it doesn't a little bit more deterioration is bequeathed to posterity.
It's strange, it looks like Stonehenge is finally being put back to the way it ought to be whereas Avebury is subject to incremental loss. Both processes can't be right, in the same WHS.
When you think about it in geographic terms - in the last three years Avebury’s local authority planners have granted permission for the development of three sites on the northern, western, and eastern thresholds of the henge in addition to the change of use creating a food outlet which will open in the very centre. The northern approach to the henge is now dominated by housing, as you guys illustrated so vividly, in addition to which a large house is replacing a bungalow at the western end of the High Street, and to the east another house will replace a bungalow on Green Street, and directly in front of everyone entering the henge by road from the south will be the food outlet at the centre of the henge.
If one can’t rely on Wiltshire Council planners to limit the impact of developments to protect something so special and unique it is granted the status of being a World Heritage Site, or expect the National Trust to see the hypocrisy in a conservation body opening a food outlet in the centre of the largest stone circle in the world whilst being party to a £multi-million attempt to remove similar facilities to a more respectful distance from dare I suggest a smaller diameter and less ancient stone circle at Stonehenge - then what next?
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Littlestone
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 22, 2011, 17:18
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Not forgetting the Obelisk marker itself – both surely would have been approved (suggested) by Keiller.
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nigelswift
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 22, 2011, 17:23
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Jeez, wish I'd said all that!
I think maybe, since the WHS has a Conservation Plan, what's also needed is an Erosion Plan - by which I mean a diagram of the area onto which the wilful heritage attacks of the Kennet Planners could be pasted for all to see.....
? ;)
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nigelswift
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 22, 2011, 17:25
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Well of course, concrete was the enthusiasm of the age. See all the listed Art Deco enclosures at Dudley Zoo.
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VBB
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 22, 2011, 18:04
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nigelswift wrote: Well of course, concrete was the enthusiasm of the age. See all the listed Art Deco enclosures at Dudley Zoo.
Indeed, wonderful cinemas and stylish hotels, dance halls and eating places. However, that seems more Keiller's world than Mr Rawlins, and that Keiller proposed the little museum at Stonehenge and as LS says certainly sanctioned the markers is suggestive. The style also promotes science though, and like Keiller John Rawlins was fascinated by what science could offer. He put the first lighting network in at Avebury, it fed his place and the pub.
We might have to settle for AK saying to JR when handing over the deeds to the plot, "nice Art Deco building would look great on there" and a quick sketch on the back of his fag packet...
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jackyboy
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 22, 2011, 18:17
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VBB wrote: nigelswift wrote: Well of course, concrete was the enthusiasm of the age. See all the listed Art Deco enclosures at Dudley Zoo.
Indeed, wonderful cinemas and stylish hotels, dance halls and eating places. However, that seems more Keiller's world than Mr Rawlins, and that Keiller proposed the little museum at Stonehenge and as LS says certainly sanctioned the markers is suggestive. The style also promotes science though, and like Keiller John Rawlins was fascinated by what science could offer. He put the first lighting network in at Avebury, it fed his place and the pub.
We might have to settle for AK saying to JR when handing over the deeds to the plot, "nice Art Deco building would look great on there" and a quick sketch on the back of his fag packet...
Or even, AK having seen JR's Garage design thinking, Yes.
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Littlestone
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 22, 2011, 18:25
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We might have to settle for AK saying to JR when handing over the deeds to the plot, "nice Art Deco building would look great on there" and a quick sketch on the back of his fag packet...
Yes, you might just be spot on there.
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