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Littlestone
Littlestone
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Edited Feb 18, 2011, 18:04
Re: The worst kind
Feb 18, 2011, 16:33
PS. Note also the bus shelter, and compare that to the absence of same (let alone benches) just down the road in Avebury itself.

Summat wrong somewhere.
tjj
tjj
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 18, 2011, 19:00
goffik wrote:
Mmm... Clapboard...

Is that the indiginous wood in Wiltshire? :D

G x


It was LS who called it 'clapboard'. I don't know what sort of timber has been used, only that it seems fairly effective in producing a barn-like effect for the houses that might be seen from the north-east banks of the henge.

I'm going to be in Avebury tomorrow - will take a closer look.
megadread
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 18, 2011, 19:07
Littlestone wrote:


For a moment there Goff I read 'Claptrap'.


Plenty of that on here.
nigelswift
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 18, 2011, 19:38
the houses employ a clapboard façade

I suspect that's because it's cheaper to do blockwork and timber than cavity brickwork.

I'd be surprised if it's an "appearance" issue because I don't think there's a mechanism to insist on that (and who would think it looked right anyway?)

If it was to improve the view FROM the henge while killing the view OF the henge I'd be more than surprised I'd be ruddy outraged. Avebury's the bleeding World Heritage Site not bleedin' Wiltshire.....
Sanctuary
Sanctuary
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 18, 2011, 19:59
nigelswift wrote:
the houses employ a clapboard façade

I suspect that's because it's cheaper to do blockwork and timber than cavity brickwork.

I'd be surprised if it's an "appearance" issue because I don't think there's a mechanism to insist on that (and who would think it looked right anyway?)

If it was to improve the view FROM the henge while killing the view OF the henge I'd be more than surprised I'd be ruddy outraged. Avebury's the bleeding World Heritage Site not bleedin' Wiltshire.....


Well 'clapboard' is what we used to call, and still do if you're in the trade, a modern-day weatherboard. Original weatherboard was cut directly from trees into wide boards of even thickness (mainly elm) but in more modern-times it became a tapered or 'feather-edge' board used maily for fencing panels and sheds which overlap. In the 'old' days it was used to face barns and outbuildings with, so gained the reputation of having a 'country' and rustic look to it. The old wide elm board had a natural wavy edge created by the exterior bark of the tree but in the main the boards cut today are plain-edged. I guess this is why clapboard was used on these buildings to give a more 'traditional' look, which would be some sort of a joke because the modern board has no 'age' to it at all. Another architectural ploy.
Littlestone
Littlestone
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Edited Feb 18, 2011, 20:03
Re: The worst kind
Feb 18, 2011, 19:59
I suspect that's because it's cheaper to do blockwork and timber than cavity brickwork.


It is cheaper – much cheaper. There are two types (nearly bought one m’self up here a few years back). The best type has a life expectancy of about 50 years. Unlike brick or stone (more suitable to Avebury) both need looking after, and need retreating every 5 years or so. But that’s beside the point; black clapboard, on houses so close to the Henge, can in no way be sympathetic to a ‘development’ so close to the World Heritage Site which is Avebury.

Sorry to quote (yet again) something that has been quoted to death, but this development, and the materials used for it are, yet again, an example of, “...the wretched ignorance and avarice of a little village unluckily plac'd within it.” (‘it’ here defined as Avebury, a World Heritage Site).
Sanctuary
Sanctuary
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 18, 2011, 20:03
Sanctuary wrote:
nigelswift wrote:
the houses employ a clapboard façade

I suspect that's because it's cheaper to do blockwork and timber than cavity brickwork.

I'd be surprised if it's an "appearance" issue because I don't think there's a mechanism to insist on that (and who would think it looked right anyway?)

If it was to improve the view FROM the henge while killing the view OF the henge I'd be more than surprised I'd be ruddy outraged. Avebury's the bleeding World Heritage Site not bleedin' Wiltshire.....


Well 'clapboard' is what we used to call, and still do if you're in the trade, a modern-day weatherboard. Original weatherboard was cut directly from trees into wide boards of even thickness (mainly elm) but in more modern-times it became a tapered or 'feather-edge' board used maily for fencing panels and sheds which overlap. In the 'old' days it was used to face barns and outbuildings with, so gained the reputation of having a 'country' and rustic look to it. The old wide elm board had a natural wavy edge created by the exterior bark of the tree but in the main the boards cut today are plain-edged. I guess this is why clapboard was used on these buildings to give a more 'traditional' look, which would be some sort of a joke because the modern board has no 'age' to it at all. Another architectural ploy.


PS.
It should be called 'crapboard' cos that's what it is compared to what we used to use.
Littlestone
Littlestone
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 18, 2011, 20:12
...in more modern-times it became a tapered or 'feather-edge' board


That’s very interesting Sanctuary.

There really is a lot of clapboard around here – some of it very old, and it fits nicely into the East Anglia landscape where stone has always been a scarce building material and rarely seen.

‘Feather-edge’ by the way has moved from an architectural term to one used in paper conservation, where the edge of the paper is pared down or ‘feathered’ in some other way.
nigelswift
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 18, 2011, 20:13
"black clapboard, on houses so close to the Henge, can in no way be sympathetic"



Oh I dunno, it captures the olde worlde traditional essence of the Beckhampton Road bus shelter.
Littlestone
Littlestone
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Re: The worst kind
Feb 18, 2011, 20:14
So does Mrs Dixon's B&B :-)
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